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  1. Bergantino Forte HP. 600 watts into ohms, 1200 watts into 4 and 2 ohms.
  2. 250 watts at 8 ohms is no good for me asI was considering it to use with my 8 ohm Barefaced Big Baby 2. The 400 watts of the Mesa 800+ easily trumps it.
  3. Hey Stofferson, thanks for that power rating data from the manual. Like some of the others my computer would not let me download the manual.
  4. I have been looking at these for a while, but nowhere can I find the power output at 4 or 8 ohms. 700 watts at 2.67 is all they seem to reveal.
  5. Surprised that nobody has mentioned that the Ampeg is a sealed cabinet, unlike many other 810s.
  6. There has been much discussion concerning this on Talkbass. Alex Claber chipped in and said that as far as he was concerned the cloth as they use it is as durable as the steel grille and to just go with whichever you find the most aesthetically pleasing. Me, I prefer the black steel grille for both looks and durability,. It also means that when I lift my Four 10 from the front it does not matter if it leans into my body.
  7. Just have to say, in response to the Barefaced naysayers on this thread, that my experience with the Barefaced tens runs contrary to the reservations that are expressed here. I am in New Zealand, yet the communication and customer service from Alex has been superb. I have two One 10s and a Four 10 which I combine with anything from a Mesa Subway 800+ to Orange AD200, Fender Super Bassman, Ampeg V4.....so I have a reasonable experience with these speakers. I also own Bergantino, Fender, Ampeg etc cabs for comparison. I do not want to get into a which is best scenario as that has been done to death, but IME and combined with decent amplification the Barefaced 10s far exceed others in volume and the type of tone that I enjoy. Yes, they are coloured but they are designed to be that way and it suits me. They go very loud without farting out and sit nicely in the mix. So light.... Anyway, it does boil down to opinion and we are all entitled to one, but I was surprised to read some of the comments here so looking to balance them from my own experience over 40 plus years of playing.
  8. I use two One 10s as well as a Four 10, so cannot directly compare with a Two 10 but my gut is that you will barely notice a difference, if any. This topic has been addressed on Talkbass and I think the consensus was that the low end and mids would be identical and you might marginally notice more highs due to the low pass crossover on one speaker in the Two 10. In reality I honestly don't think you would notice. Two One 10s make a wonderfully portable and modular syatem. I never cease to be amazed at how much a single One 10 cab can fill a small to medium room - I recently ran a side by side comparison of a single One 10 with an Ampeg 212AV for a couple of bass players and they were amazed that in a medium room it could match the 212AV with no sign of farting out. This was with a Mesa 800+ and a touch of HPF for both. That said, if playing with a drummer I always take two of the One 10s or the Four 10 - just because I can
  9. I think the problem with this idea is that the device would have to be some sort of (large) resistor which would then absorb its share of any extra wattage you gained, hence making no significant difference to actual volume.
  10. Yes, this has been dealt with in detail on the Talkbass thread. Alex did respond at one stage, IIRC along the lines that impedance varies with frequency ( no doubt I have this wrong as I am not a tech but that was the rough gist) and that it was safe to use the speakers as rated - which is obviously correct as I have not heard of any issues.
  11. I have two One 10s and a Four 10. Fantastic match with my Mesa 400+ and gives me heaps of options up to a Six 10 when I link the two One 10s in series. The Four 10 with the Mesa sounds absolutely huge, when I add the two One 10s it still sounds huge and have not really needed that combo. With hindsight for my purposes a Four 10 and a One 10 would suffice, but the pair of One 10s turned up used and I grabbed them. The Four 10 is an easy schlep and great value imo.
  12. I have a Barefaced Four 10, which I use with a variety of tube (Orange, Fender, Ampeg) and non-tube (Mesa Subway and TC Classic) heads. Yes it is efficient, but I can honestly say I have not encountered this problem at all with any of the heads. The Four 10 is a wonderful cab, well suited especially to tube heads, I would be looking at a different head before considering changing cabs.
  13. I sometimes run my Barefaced Four 10 with an 800+, although I usually favour all-valve heads. A touch of hpf and boost in the upper mids works for me with a passive Fender, and I tend to crank the voicing a bit to get a tube sound. Amazing speakers coupled with an amazing amp. I honestly don't think that the Barefaced tens, with their baked in character, could sound "bad" with any amp. Similarly the Mesa 800+ is versatile enough to be a decent match with any speaker, despite having a complex looking front panel I have found it remarkable intuitive to tweak.
  14. Tim1

    Which 4x10 cab

    I often run a Barefaced 410 with a 100 watt Ampeg V4B. This cab loves tube valve amps and tonally it is a match made in heaven. Certainly well worth the search if you can find a second hand one. Alternatively you could remind Alex that it is the festive season and a time of good will to all......
  15. One thing to consider is that the volume control in the Mesa D800+ is far more linear than many other amps I have played. It keeps getting louder all the way up, it is possible that the GK has much more of its power in the first 50%. I have played a few amps which fall into this category and seem incredibly loud at a one third turn of the volume knob, but then have little useable clean volume after that.
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