bubinga5 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Man this guy imo is just up there with theeee best drummers who have ever lived. Buddy Rich. a short tempered master of rhythm. his drumming is just EPIC. this vid just says it all. his timing is just perfect, his touch is just perfect.when he's slows the tempo and then speeds it up again.. his drumming is nothing short of beautiful imo. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9esWG6A6g-k[/media] Edited February 8, 2015 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) By all accounts a horrible person but one of the all time great / most influential drummers ever... Edited February 8, 2015 by peteb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 ... and the new generation have done this with the genre ... http://youtu.be/xRiZNOvC5J8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel36 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Buddy Rich. Saw him a few times live and at Ronnie Scott's. The most incredible drummer there's ever been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 The film whiplash is pretty much about the obsession to play as well as him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leschirons Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 First saw him in about 1970. What an eye-opener that was. There was no-one around like him. His mood coloured every number and solo he played and he was apparently a real arse to work for according to most of the players in his big band. I was convinced for about 15 years that he could actually play a one-handed roll (and drummers do nowadays) but it was an illusion he'd created. A real innovator and fabulous musician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunderthumbs Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Saw him many times in the late 70's early 80's. Met him at Davenport Theatre Stockport. See pic. [attachment=183254:SCAN0010.JPG] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobthedog Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Superb. My father, who too was a drummer, used to take me to see him in the 70‘s along with another drummer he was a fan of, Joe Morello. Another drummer well worth listening too is / was Jake Hanna, an amazing brush player who like Buddy made the drums an instrument rather than just part of the rythm section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Dunky Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 IMO the greatest ever. Had some killer bassists too - a guy called Tom Warrington stands out, absolutely fantastic. But yes, there are some incredible stories about Buddy's temper. A spoonerism of his name would best describe what he was like to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Some pretty funny stories around regarding BR, and of course the dressing room and coach tapes fuel it all. Watched him a few times in the 70/80's and always a great band with him, amazing in fact. There are so many great vids worth checking out on YouTube. The West Side Story medley was terrific Big Band Arranging. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keKrzgskvtw And for sheer power, the Trumpets are stonking, especially when Trpt 1 goes up the octave after the Alto solo. Buddy swinging really hard with another great arrangement. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBSTXaBOuQ4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 He is viewed with some ambivalence amongst Jazz musicians (as opposed to drummers); a great drummer but not such a rounded musician. His list of 'classic' credits in the Jazz world is minimal and I think he kind of fits in with those 'clinician' types who are unquestionably masters of the instrument they play but their ideas don't move very freely into the music of others (Wooten, Berlin, Manring etc). I think of these kinds of players are atheletes and acrobats rather than players. Joe Morello is a different kettle of fish. Much more 'musical'. As for that Bozzio/Wackerman thing; icky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) The appeal to musicians, certainly blowers, was the band/arrangements side of it, the arrangements were very well done. And of course his use of younger musicians was a great stepping stone for some. Edited February 10, 2015 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmo Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I read a book about Bill Graham, the Fillmore promotor. He hated rock drum solo`s, and Ten Years After were playing. They have long drum solo`s in the set. He booked Buddy Rich to appear before them. He played his set . As Ten Years After started to take the stage, Bill Graham said follow that to the drummer. He said there were no long drum solo`s. Buddy Rich blew the audience away. I don`t think there will ever be a better drummer than Buddy Rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 There's certainly a difference of appreciation here. BR, to me was a great showman, an innovative technician, but I'd go for many other drummers, even of the same period, for musicality. Joe Morello has been mentioned; he's one of my all-time favourites, but equally Jo Jones, on brushes, Art Blakey, Max Roach, Louie Bellson... More modern..? Christian Vander, Chad Wackerman, Terry Bozzio... They've taken the heritage and worked it up to another couple of levels. Bozzio with Zappa is amazing. Not saying that BR was bad, by any means, just that it 'talks' differently to me than some here, apparently. Normal, I suppose; we're all different..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel36 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 "I think [i]Buddy Rich[/i] is far and away the greatest drummer who ever lived". .... [i].......Joe Morello[/i]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 [quote name='Colonel36' timestamp='1423560104' post='2686194'] "I think [i]Buddy Rich[/i] is far and away the greatest drummer who ever lived". .... [i].......Joe Morello[/i]. [/quote] I know which one I would book if I had a gig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassace Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I'm sure the endorsement is misattributed. Wasn't it BR who said it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 ^^ Ray McKinley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 [quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1423361263' post='2683996'] Man this guy imo is just up there with theeee best drummers who have ever lived. Buddy Rich. a short tempered master of rhythm. his drumming is just EPIC. this vid just says it all. his timing is just perfect, his touch is just perfect.when he's slows the tempo and then speeds it up again.. his drumming is nothing short of beautiful imo. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9esWG6A6g-k[/media] [/quote] Incorrect 1st sentence. He is far and away the greatest drummer that ever lived. ;-) I saw him live twice, with my dad. The most talented musician I've ever seen by absolute miles, and he was a drummer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1423511379' post='2685787'] He is viewed with some ambivalence amongst Jazz musicians (as opposed to drummers); a great drummer but not such a rounded musician. His list of 'classic' credits in the Jazz world is minimal and I think he kind of fits in with those 'clinician' types who are unquestionably masters of the instrument they play but their ideas don't move very freely into the music of others (Wooten, Berlin, Manring etc). I think of these kinds of players are atheletes and acrobats rather than players. Joe Morello is a different kettle of fish. Much more 'musical'. [/quote] Couldn't disagree more TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1423519637' post='2685942'] There's certainly a difference of appreciation here. BR, to me was a great showman, an innovative technician, but I'd go for many other drummers, even of the same period, for musicality. Joe Morello has been mentioned; he's one of my all-time favourites, but equally Jo Jones, on brushes, Art Blakey, Max Roach, Louie Bellson... More modern..? Christian Vander, Chad Wackerman, Terry Bozzio... They've taken the heritage and worked it up to another couple of levels. Bozzio with Zappa is amazing. Not saying that BR was bad, by any means, just that it 'talks' differently to me than some here, apparently. Normal, I suppose; we're all different..! [/quote] Saw Wackerman with Holdsworth; thought he was dreadful. Never rated Bozzio either. Saw Bellson twice (?) too; good drummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1423563820' post='2686266'] I know which one I would book if I had a gig [/quote] So do I. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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