johnDeereJack Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 It seems there's a new pedal from Darkglass, this time a fuzz: [url="http://www.darkglass.com/products/duality-dual-fuzz-engine/"]http://www.darkglass.com/products/duality-dual-fuzz-engine/[/url] No sound clips as yet but it looks pretty good and from what Darkglass are saying on TB it sounds like it might be quite cool too! [i]"[color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]Both [fuzz circuits] are totally original and new... One side is an old school style square-wave shaper... gated and with a very vintage, synthy vibe to it (the Filter knob will serve as a shape changer, rounding the corners). The other side is a 4 stage CMOS high gain fat, fuzzy distortion.[/font][/color][/i] [i][color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]By combining both all sort of weird things happen... from just mixing the "textures" to dirty phaser-like effects... it can get pretty crazy and unusual.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]2 Cool things about it (and main reason of why this design was so tricky) is that it's intended to work very consistently regardless of the rig used: most Fuzzes tend to prefer passive basses and not like cabinets with tweeters.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]Spencer and I corrected that by adding input buffers (necessary for the Blend knob to work properly) and by using an active Filter control, making the adjustment of 'bite' and high harmonic content a breeze to dial."[/font][/color][/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyratm Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Ohhhh can't wait for clips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Any idea on price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnDeereJack Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 [quote name='woodyratm' timestamp='1381929933' post='2245617'] Ohhhh can't wait for clips! [/quote] [quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1381931592' post='2245652'] Any idea on price? [/quote] I second that Woody; really looking forward to hearing it in action and no prices as yet although as far as I can tell from TB they're on pre-order at the mo. Not sure if that's just in US but Bass Direct & Effect Power Supplies are listed as UK stockists. Suppose you could email for info regarding price and pre-ordering. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on the Darkglass page for clips though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster135 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Arrgh, I wish they would stop releasing such lovely stuff! The "Duality" idea sounds great, I look forward to hearing audio examples of the variation it provides. BassEFX are currently doing pre-orders for $249.00 USD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnDeereJack Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Yeah, I just took delivery of a Darkglass VMT last month; a really nice piece of kit it is too and here's me thinking my pedal gas had dissipated then this is announced. Typical! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FretNoMore Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 My piggy bank sent me a card saying "I love you ... for not liking fuzz". We'll see about that, it doesn't look like another standard fuzz clone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 [quote name='bakerster135' timestamp='1381932656' post='2245680'] Arrgh, I wish they would stop releasing such lovely stuff! The "Duality" idea sounds great, I look forward to hearing audio examples of the variation it provides. BassEFX are currently doing pre-orders for $249.00 USD. [/quote] So with the usual UK stitch up - about £250 then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I imagine it will be B3K/Vintage priced. To be honest, I am more interested in the 3Leaf offering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 [quote name='Kev' timestamp='1381945953' post='2245923'] I imagine it will be B3K/Vintage priced. To be honest, I am more interested in the 3Leaf offering [/quote] With you there Kev. Love the 3 leaf stuff, and Spencer has an octave on the drawing board too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudewheresmybass Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 If it is priced around £250, that seems fair considering the name they have built for quality tools, and what is essentially a two-in-one solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnDeereJack Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 [quote name='Kev' timestamp='1381945953' post='2245923'] To be honest, I am more interested in the 3Leaf offering [/quote] I'm a huge fan of 3Leaf too and (I believe) Spencer is somewhat involved with Darkglass now? On paper at least, this fuzz should be quite interesting - vintage/synthy/gated and modern in the same pedal? I'm looking forward to hearing some soundclips. So 3Leaf/Spencer is releasing an octave pedal? Bugger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I have to say I'm interested in the business setup. Is Doug at Darkglass an electronics engineer? or is he the ideas/vision and the money? I seem to remember he has a 'partner' who is the electronics guy? (Nothing wrong with that, its how EHX started). Maybe the partner isn't on the scene anymore and Spencer has taken on the role. All speculation on my behalf of course Great pedals from both parties though. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnDeereJack Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 Spencer at 3Leaf has a new fuzz called 'You're Doom' coming out. Here's his post on TB: [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/3leaf-audio-club-episode-2-a-957647/index25.html#post14996868"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/3leaf-audio-club-episode-2-a-957647/index25.html#post14996868[/url] [i]"[color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]It's essentially the opposite of the Duality. Here's how I look at them: The Duality takes traditional idea of a fuzz and executes it in a totally unique way, while the You're Doom turns the idea of a fuzz on its head.[/font][/color][/i] [i][color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]You're Doom responds to your playing dynamics. You're Doom plays well with other pedals and doesn't care if your bass is active or passive. You're Doom sounds like a square wave came straight from your pickups.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]It's called a "dynamic harmonic device" because it's just that - extremely sensitive to dynamics. You can "play it" the way you would play an envelope filter or a compressor."[/font][/color][/i] [size=4]Too many nice pedals coming out..![/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyratm Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 [quote name='johnDeereJack' timestamp='1382002600' post='2246494'] Spencer at 3Leaf has a new fuzz called 'You're Doom' coming out. Here's his post on TB: [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/3leaf-audio-club-episode-2-a-957647/index25.html#post14996868"]http://www.talkbass....ml#post14996868[/url] [i]"[color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]It's essentially the opposite of the Duality. Here's how I look at them: The Duality takes traditional idea of a fuzz and executes it in a totally unique way, while the You're Doom turns the idea of a fuzz on its head.[/font][/color][/i] [i][color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]You're Doom responds to your playing dynamics. You're Doom plays well with other pedals and doesn't care if your bass is active or passive. You're Doom sounds like a square wave came straight from your pickups.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]It's called a "dynamic harmonic device" because it's just that - extremely sensitive to dynamics. You can "play it" the way you would play an envelope filter or a compressor."[/font][/color][/i] [size=4]Too many nice pedals coming out..![/size] [/quote] I like the sound of this too. Sounds like it'll be a right dirty bugger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster135 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 [quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1382000274' post='2246446'] I have to say I'm interested in the business setup. Is Doug at Darkglass an electronics engineer? or is he the ideas/vision and the money? I seem to remember he has a 'partner' who is the electronics guy? (Nothing wrong with that, its how EHX started). Maybe the partner isn't on the scene anymore and Spencer has taken on the role. All speculation on my behalf of course Great pedals from both parties though. Si [/quote] Si, there's a good explanation [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/darkglass-pedals-going-made-usa-now-892646/"]here[/url]! There's also [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmpXUaJvNm0"]this[/url] vid of Doug making one of the Finnish B3Ks at high-speed(!), but seems the move was due to costing, and Doug wanting to focus on the designs rather than having to deal with the demand and put all of them together! There's also [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u02mNByC3s"]this[/url] vid of Spencer explaining why the USA B3Ks he's constructing are better!... Sorry for the video overload! [size=4] [/size] [size=4]Al[/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 [quote name='bakerster135' timestamp='1382004931' post='2246537'] Si, there's a good explanation [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/darkglass-pedals-going-made-usa-now-892646/"]here[/url]! There's also [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmpXUaJvNm0"]this[/url] vid of Doug making one of the Finnish B3Ks at high-speed(!), but seems the move was due to costing, and Doug wanting to focus on the designs rather than having to deal with the demand and put all of them together! There's also [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u02mNByC3s"]this[/url] vid of Spencer explaining why the USA B3Ks he's constructing are better!... Sorry for the video overload! [size=4]Al[/size] [/quote] Cheers for all the info Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBassBob Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 BTW, in case anyone is confused, "You're Doom" is a reference to a rather hilarious series called Frisky Dingo. Quick summary to this gag: an alien super-villain called Killface has built a massive engine to drive the Earth into the Sun but because he's blown all of his money on making this machine he doesn't have the budget to broadcast his evil plot globally so he resorts to making ten thousand post cards which backfires: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OYA_rNgGjg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OYA_rNgGjg[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster135 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Ha ha! [size=4] Is this an Adult Swim series? It looks like it![/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBassBob Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Yup! I'd say it's the best Adult Swim animation... beating the usual ATHF, Venture Bros. etc. It only ran for two seasons so you can watch the whole thing in like two hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerbassment Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Pre-order price for the Duality Fuzz from Bass Direct is £195 - http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Darkglass_Duality.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) The Talkbass threads on this pedal are rather amusing, so many people gushing over it and ready to hand their money over before they've even heard clips! Very interested to hear both of these though, I wasn't aware of Spencer's either! My favorite fuzz so far is the Team Awesome Fuzz Machine - only reason I would get rid of that is if they brought out a better/smaller version! Edited October 17, 2013 by dannybuoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerbassment Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) There is a demo video of a prototype of Spencer's (3Leaf Audio) upcoming Fuzz [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EMJJmjDWCU[/media] Edited October 17, 2013 by lowerbassment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBassBob Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) [quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1382022110' post='2246791'] The Talkbass threads on this pedal are rather amusing, so many people gushing over it and ready to hand their money over before they've even heard clips! Very interested to hear both of these though, I wasn't aware of Spencer's either! My favorite fuzz so far is the Team Awesome Fuzz Machine - only reason I would get rid of that is if they brought out a better/smaller version! [/quote] I don't go to Talkbass much anymore because the effects board is home to a few tits who annoy me =\ Edited October 17, 2013 by BigBassBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 [quote name='lowerbassment' timestamp='1382022623' post='2246796'] There is a demo video of a prototype of Spencer's (3Leaf Audio) upcoming Fuzz [/quote] This one too: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98XtEqEpMvA[/media] I don't know if it was recorded direct or mic'ed, presume the former. Prefer the TAFM based on these clips alone but will reserve judgement until I've heard it through a proper rig! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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