wateroftyne Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 [url="http://www.fender.com/en-GB/series/vintage-hot-rod/"]More info here...[/url] [b][size=5]Vintage Hot Rod 60s Precision Bass:[/size][/b] [b][size=5]Vintage Hot Rod 70s Jazz bass:[/size][/b] Discuss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Can't get on with the look of PJs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Fender are way behind the curve ... [URL=http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/h4ppyjack/media/Basses%20CURRENT/Maya%20Precision%201970s%20CURRENT/CIMG1256.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m496/h4ppyjack/Basses%20CURRENT/Maya%20Precision%201970s%20CURRENT/CIMG1256.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/h4ppyjack/media/Basses%20CURRENT/Status%20Graphite%20Vintage%20PJ4%202010%20CURRENT/DSCF3877.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m496/h4ppyjack/Basses%20CURRENT/Status%20Graphite%20Vintage%20PJ4%202010%20CURRENT/DSCF3877.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1381310177' post='2237209'] Can't get on with the look of PJs... [/quote] Me neither. The J pickup looks a bit lonely. And can be a bit noisy, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si600 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Now if the P was a 5er... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Why is it that Fender consistantly fail to come up with an appealing mass-market PJ bass? It would seem like the most obvious thing in the World to make a priority , but decades go by and still it eludes them . As we have discussed on these pages before , a twin Precision configuration would potentially be a winner , too. That Jazz Bass with a Precision pickup looks very wrong, too. Not quite as wrong as a Precision with two Jazz Bass pickups , but still wrong . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1381312890' post='2237267'] ...a twin Precision configuration would potentially be a winner, too. [/quote] You could always try a Blacktop Jazz... and I quite like the idea of a J with a P pickup. Neck still too narrow, though! Has anyone got a J body with a P neck..? I could go with that. Edited October 9, 2013 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamtheelvy Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 A fender PJ!! Yes! Wait... no sunburst? No maple fretboards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPJ Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 The prices are a bit steep too for what they are. I was looking for a PJ recently and found Jap imports for something like 1/3-1/2 the price of these. I'm having a custom ACG PJ made for less than this as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1381313079' post='2237273'] You could always try a Blacktop Jazz... and I quite like the idea of a J with a P pickup. Neck still too narrow, though! Has anyone got a J body with a P neck..? I could go with that. [/quote] But why put Precision pickups on a Jazz body? Put the on a Precision body and it would look great . Also , without wishing to sound uneccesarilly elitist , what I want ( and would buy) from Fender is quality ( well , quality by Fender standards , if you know what I mean) American-made basses . They seem to make so many basses nowadays that look like , and indeed essentially are, bodged together configurations and designs made of available parts from existing Mexican-made basses. Some of the more original designs , like the Carbonita Precision and the new Starcaster Bass , look like they could be a lot of fun , but most of them look extremely unappealing to me , to be honest. Edited October 9, 2013 by Dingus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul h Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I do love me a PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1381314824' post='2237321'] But why put Precision pickups on a Jazz body? [/quote] I suppose it's because the Jazz already has the two-pickup knobs and control plate. A Precision version would need to be adapted from the single vol and tone configuration. A cost consideration, basically. Fender bodging up basses from the old parts bin again, as you say. But thinking about it, the routing is different for the two P pickups anway, so... I don't know is the short answer. Edited October 9, 2013 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 [quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1381314824' post='2237321'] But why put Precision pickups on a Jazz body? Put them on a Precision body and it would look great... [/quote] Looks like they already did - in 1983. [url="http://gitarion.pl/galeria/basowe/fender_precision_elite_II/fender_precision_elite_II.html"]http://gitarion.pl/galeria/basowe/fender_precision_elite_II/fender_precision_elite_II.html[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasMooseblaster Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1381310964' post='2237230'] Fender are way behind the curve ... [url="http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/h4ppyjack/media/Basses%20CURRENT/Status%20Graphite%20Vintage%20PJ4%202010%20CURRENT/DSCF3877.jpg.html"][/url] [/quote] Now who is this semi-hollow beauty made by? I do like the look of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1381315016' post='2237324'] I suppose it's because the Jazz already has the two-pickup knobs and control plate. A Precision version would need to be adapted from the single vol and tone configuration. A cost consideration, basically. Fender bodging up basses from the old parts bin again, as you say. But thinking about it, the routing is different for the two P pickups anway, so... I don't know is the short answer. [/quote] I think the reasoning is that the Jazz is enduringly popular , so why not offer it with a different twist i.e as a PJ ,but the reality is that what you end up is a ruined Jazz Bass that doesn't satisfy as a Precision either . The truth is that the best solution is to have two basses , a Precision and a Jazz . Whether the Precision should be a PJ is a moot point , for the much-discussed reasons to do with balancing the output of the pickups and the problems caused by phase cancellation , but then again , a Fender-style PJ can still be a satisfying and very useful bass , so I'm not neccesarilly dismissing them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 [quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1381315664' post='2237352'] I think the reasoning is that the Jazz is enduringly popular, so why not offer it with a different twist i.e as a PJ ,but the reality is that what you end up is a ruined Jazz Bass that doesn't satisfy as a Precision either. [/quote] Well I have a problem with Jazzes anyway... largely because they're not Precisions, but I take your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPJ Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 [quote name='EliasMooseblaster' timestamp='1381315526' post='2237342'] Now who is this semi-hollow beauty made by? I do like the look of that. [/quote] Status Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1381315284' post='2237334'] Looks like they already did - in 1983. [url="http://gitarion.pl/galeria/basowe/fender_precision_elite_II/fender_precision_elite_II.html"]http://gitarion.pl/g...n_elite_II.html[/url] [/quote] I was thinking about these as I typed my post by virtue of the fact that one of my mates had one back in those days . They were excellent basses , although the micro tuning bridge wasn't a good idea in retrospect . I seem to remember the neck was very Jazz Bass- like. A passive version would be a great addition to the current Fender line . Edited October 9, 2013 by Dingus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 [quote name='TPJ' timestamp='1381315865' post='2237356'] Status [/quote] [url="http://www.status-graphite.com/status/frames/index_home.html"]http://www.status-graphite.com/status/frames/index_home.html[/url] And a thing of beauty it is too. I love my vintage Fenders, but the graphite neck on this Status gives the classic P-bass sound some real punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasMooseblaster Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1381316027' post='2237367'] [url="http://www.status-graphite.com/status/frames/index_home.html"]http://www.status-gr...index_home.html[/url] And a thing of beauty it is too. I love my vintage Fenders, but the graphite neck on this Status gives the classic P-bass sound some real punch. [/quote] Yeah, I've heard good things about them - does the cavity make much difference to the sound, or just look awesome? Edited October 9, 2013 by EliasMooseblaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Mainly the look, I'd say, which is really very cool ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I think the bridges are non-string thru ..... which = disqualification in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) I received an email on this today. Nice idea. Are the P/J Jazz basses very similar to the recent MIJ models? Not keen on the P colours...wish they would do a 3 tone sunburst. I often think 'why not get a Sandberg' when I see these new Fender's, but I guess the Sandbergs are totally different. Edited October 9, 2013 by Musicman20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Alsatian Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 £1623 (P) and £1678 (J) at Andertons: [url="http://www.andertons.co.uk/electric-basses/pid30962/cid682/fender-vintage-hot-rod-60s-precision-bass-rosewood-fingerboard.asp"]http://www.andertons.co.uk/electric-basses/pid30962/cid682/fender-vintage-hot-rod-60s-precision-bass-rosewood-fingerboard.asp[/url] [url="http://www.andertons.co.uk/electric-basses/pid30965/cid682/fender-vintage-hot-rod-70s-jazz-bass-rosewood-fingerboard-3.asp"]http://www.andertons.co.uk/electric-basses/pid30965/cid682/fender-vintage-hot-rod-70s-jazz-bass-rosewood-fingerboard-3.asp[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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