mybass Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Out of interest I was trying to find if there are perspex type guitar speaker noise 'guards' available but no luck. Anyone know where I could get info on them please? These are the clear 'shields' placed in front of speakers, around drum kits etc on stage (and studio) to cut onstage levels from hitting the front row of the punters but allow the player to have their amp settings as per usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalMan Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Ah yes. Thanks for reminding me. I meant to start a similar search this w/e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 [url="http://www.graceacoustics.co.uk/categories/Amplifier-Screens/"]http://www.graceacoustics.co.uk/categories/Amplifier-Screens/[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalMan Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) ...and Skank just beat me it finding this [url="http://www.graceacoustics.co.uk/products/Amplifier-Screen.html"]Grace Acoustic Amplifier Screen[/url] The question then becomes; how much of a screen to have, just 3 sides, plus a top? Has anyone used one of these in anger for gigs? Edited September 10, 2012 by WalMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low End Bee Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 They do one for drums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bremen Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 They do a set of three for two guitars and a bassist. Guaranteed to open on cue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 [quote name='Low End Bee' timestamp='1347290872' post='1798892'] They do one for drums [/quote] Is it air tight? ;o) heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Hmmm, if you're gonna go to the lengths of putting a screen in front of the drummer, why on earth would you make it transparent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 This may be a silly question.... Drummers are loud, put a screen round them and mic them up. they can play like Keith Moon and not drown out everyone else Valve bass amps sound better louder, run them somewhere with screens at the front (and back?) and mic them to get the fully saturated valve guitar sounds. A bass amp... in most cases not so volume dependent.... why not just turn it down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blademan_98 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1347309055' post='1799246'] This may be a silly question A bass amp... in most cases not so volume dependent.... why not just turn it down? [/quote] You can turn them down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalMan Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I often feel that I would like to be running the amp that bit harder. Perhaps that's a problem with a too efficient cab? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomBassmonkey Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1347309055' post='1799246'] This may be a silly question.... Drummers are loud, put a screen round them and mic them up. they can play like Keith Moon and not drown out everyone else Valve bass amps sound better louder, run them somewhere with screens at the front (and back?) and mic them to get the fully saturated valve guitar sounds. A bass amp... in most cases not so volume dependent.... why not just turn it down? [/quote] If you turn down the bass amp and you're micing it up, then that mic can catch bleed from other things. Ideally you want the amp loud for a few inches surrounding the cab to drown out bleed from other places, then silent beyond that (assuming proper monitoring). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybass Posted September 11, 2012 Author Share Posted September 11, 2012 [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1347288727' post='1798855'] [url="http://www.graceacoustics.co.uk/categories/Amplifier-Screens/"]http://www.graceacou...lifier-Screens/[/url] [/quote] Nice one thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybass Posted September 11, 2012 Author Share Posted September 11, 2012 [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1347309055' post='1799246'] This may be a silly question.... Drummers are loud, put a screen round them and mic them up. they can play like Keith Moon and not drown out everyone else Valve bass amps sound better louder, run them somewhere with screens at the front (and back?) and mic them to get the fully saturated valve guitar sounds. A bass amp... in most cases not so volume dependent.... why not just turn it down? [/quote] The question was for a 'guitar shield'..I would never use a bass one ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 [quote name='mybass' timestamp='1347364605' post='1799772'] The question was for a 'guitar shield'..I would never use a bass one ! [/quote] ah makes sense- I did wonder, but though with this being a place where well, we talk about basses a fair bit don't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 It's just a piece of acrylic? How much would that cost to knock up in the shed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalMan Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 [quote name='charic' timestamp='1347365281' post='1799784'] It's just a piece of acrylic? How much would that cost to knock up in the shed? [/quote]There are a few YouTube videos from people who have built their own. Studiospares seemed to have replacement hinges. The main requirement of a DIY version seems to be rounding all the edges so you do not slice your hand off moving them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 [quote name='WalMan' timestamp='1347365616' post='1799790'] There are a few YouTube videos from people who have built their own. Studiospares seemed to have replacement hinges. The main requirement of a DIY version seems to be rounding all the edges so you do not slice your hand off moving them. [/quote] You could always put some foam or rubber around the edges if you wanted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamPodmore Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) [quote name='charic' timestamp='1347365742' post='1799792'] You could always put some foam or rubber around the edges if you wanted [/quote] I know drummers are supposed to lack intelligence but isn't that a little too far? Actually, thinking about it, it's a drummer, make that foam 2" thick i think. I do see the appeal for these, but as we never mic the drums i think it'd be pretty impractical for us. Our drummer's good with volume anyway, but i'm sure he wouldn't mind being able to go all out without killing anyones ears. Liam Edited September 11, 2012 by LiamPodmore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 does it need to be clear for an amp? i'd go with a self build made of plywood with piano hinges maybe, and line it with some kind of dampening material. my church bought a drum screen to reduce the onstage volume and all it managed to do was reflect the drums back against a wall and make them very loud on the balcony (and deafening for the drummer, it was painful behind the kit even with a moderate drummer), we had to add some acoustic panels on the back wall to balance it all out (we ended up ditching the screen as it was easier to get the drummer to play quieter, which coupled with the acoustic panels sorted the volume problems.) Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybass Posted September 11, 2012 Author Share Posted September 11, 2012 Thanks all..one company contact made and some cheeky asides about drummers! The screen would be for a guitar cabinet mainly but Matt P's thoughts could be very relevant for smaller gigs with brick wall stage surround (e.g. Farnham Maltings, terrible onstage sound for bands). I recently saw Eric Johnson ion his European tour using a homemade type 'baffle' that looked like a hinged and carpeted screen, so if carpet is good enough for Eric, then I'm sure he has looked at all options available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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