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The Kiloton is the only Stingray-alike I've heard that actually sounds like the real deal. A great sounding instrument. I second the Musicman USA SUB as an alternative (I just happen to be selling one 😂) however I'm not sure where you'd find a mint one for £400 (I paid more than that for mine 3 years ago). When pricing mine up and looking around the net for an idea, they seem to go for more than that now.

That's fair enough! The table lists the BH500 which is the precursor to the 550 and 800 in design. As always with these discussions, I am just going by what my ears tell me and the BH550 I have is in no way lacking in terms of volume/power (I actually found it cleaner than the MB800 I owned funnily enough)

I don't have a source. It's bits and bobs gleamed from the interweb regarding the issue as I was wary of it at the time. Given the fuore over the RH series, im not sure would TC persist with the same rating system on the newer heads? In any case, the RH series were known for compressing hard at volume, I can confirm that there is nothing of the sort with my BH550. It's clean, clear and utterly composed all the way up to stupid volumes. Easily going toe to toe if not surpassing a MB LM3 I used for a while.

It's only the RH series that suffered from this wattage/compression issue. The BH series do not and are very much the full 550w and 800w wattage rating claimed.

This appears to be a cut down BH550. Good price though!

IMO there's no substitute other than to just buy new strings.

Did someone mention sparkles?!

The real deal!

I find red labels and yellow to be far too coarse for my tastes. Decent enough sounding though.

My Modulus Flea hasn't budged a millimeter! 👍

Just sold my GK to Gareth. Good comms, very quick payment and a nice bloke to boot. Deal with total confidence! Enjoy mate!

Thanks for all the replies on the thread! I decided to go for Bagsie Blue's Gallien Krueger MB800 that was up for sale in the for sale section, seemed a good price and worth a try! Well!! You guys were not wrong about GK heads! The presence and authority in the tone is a definite step up. Not an amp for the shy retiring type! Had to dial the treble back SO much at a gig on Friday in Oxford. I had the horn's on my 2x Vanderkley MNT210's dialled back to almost off and the treble cut slightly on my Modulus Flea and it was still a very bright sound. However, that massive grunty bottom end and sheer 'quickness' of the notes was extremely pleasing to the ear. I was also getting a 'slight' bit of overdrive at fairly low gain settings, which confused me a bit, it could just be the Bartolini preamp / Lane Poor combo driving the input stage too hard. (I haven't tried the -10db cut switch but i'd imagine it would clean it up) However, I'd imagine this in conjunction with a quality compressor would get me where I want to be.

Just bought a GK MB800 from Martyn. Good comms and shipped very promptly. Packaged extremely well too. Highly recommended. Many thanks!

Sold my Eden WTX to Gareth. Good comms, prompt payment and a hassle free experience. Recommended!

Not to detail the thread but it's one thing that I've never liked about Bass Direct, their description on used basses are often well off.

I seemingly do the opposite to most here, I keep my preamps flat and EQ on the bass head. It makes sense to me as I'm not a massive fan of the Bartolini preamp in my Flea bass (bass doesn't have any width and the treble Freq is far too high for a graphite neck bass IMO). The TC BH550 I use has superb and well thought out EQ points (it cuts and boost different frequencies on each tone knob, which is also a boon). All amp for me!

Thanks for the link, it was an interesting read and makes a strong case for the Genzler. Echoing a few things i've read elsewhere online too. Whilst researching other heads, I came across the EBS Reidmar 750. Always been aware of them but they fly under the radar a bit and could be a left-field choice. I know EBS are known for a glassy, hi-fi sound (which might be a bit too much with my Flea bass, especially given it's a 1997 model with an original Lane Poor) Anyone have experiences in terms of the thump/presence this amp puts out?

Thanks! That's really helpful!

I wear foam earplugs with a 35db rating, and we don't rehearse excessively loud. As I said, maybe I'm just imagining it! Looked into the Genzler and it's seems intriguing, liking the sound of it through YouTube demos and what people seem to say, might have to get down to Bass Direct and see if they have any I can demo. On an aside, the best amp I've played through that sounded like what I'm trying to explain is the Mesa Boogie MPulse 600. Big, wide sounding, authorative, yet defined and controlled. Unfortunately they seem to be rarer than rocking horse poo on the secondhand market. Don't suppose anyone knows if the Mesa Boogie Subway comes in any way close to this?