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There are podcasts and you tube videos where a producer will break a song down track by track and explain why it’s great. Rick Beato does a you tube one and Christian Hand has some podcasts in which he does the same. They’re worth a listen just to contextualise some of the tone debate stuff on songs you will have heard 1000’s of times. Its a lot of fun for a geek like me. Maybe not entirely relevant but some guys here might be quite interested in such resources.

@Al Krow I’ve edited my post to include ‘bass’ 😀 Its two different thing ‘knowing why it’s good’ and appreciating that a band ‘sound good’. It’s gets into minutiae and a bit of a moot point though doesn’t it - tone v great tone v- superlative tone etc etc. It’s a good discussion point but ultimately boils down to if we feel good about ‘our’ tone. My point is simple. All band members should give some consideration to ‘good’ tone. I’d hope that the guitarist cares, I’d hope the drummer cares too. If we can’t be bothered to sound ‘good’ for ourselves then for whom? ‘Good’ anything’ is always subjective and it stands to reason that we can only do so much in this quest and we have to accept some truths in talent, musicianship gear etc. Punters will notice a bad tone more readily than a good one as there is an expectation that a band will be half decent if they’re out earning x amount of times per month. If a good tone makes you happy and relaxed AND play more in the groove then it’s a good thing. If the tone you have suits the song even better. I play gigs for the enjoyment of it and of course money is nice too. My concern when I gig is that the band sounds good and I hope that translates to the punters if they are conscious of my tone or not. Sure playing the correct note at the correct time is important too but that’s another thread 😀

Yes good bass tone does matter. *edited* If your band mates don’t care about tone they’re not tuned in to being in a band. If you’re not constructively listening to your band as a unit and aiming for consistency in your sound then you’re not fully engaging. To the point about simple set up we’re all capable of going bass>amp>speaker and we could all make that work but once we start trying to find our ‘voice’ with our instrument we do consider effects and enhancements to be more unique and distinguish is from others Why is tone important and why would punters care? Well we’ve all been conditioned by listening to professionally mixed music our whole lives to understand what sounds good and the human ear knows when things sound right or wrong. Too shrill we wince too boomy etc we know it’s wrong. A well mixed/good sounding band just feels and sounds right. Within that context we (irrespective of instrument) have a responsibility to play well, sound good and serve the song irrespective of genre. Why do live venues have a sound engineer? To make sure it sounds good of course so the punters come back! What I found with most musicians once they get some proficiency and begin to understand ‘how’ to play their instrument they take an active role in the sound as much as the technique. They know where they fit in the context of the song and they give a damn about making it work in the band. If these people are not in your band then it’s a sad day for you and the audience. Yes punters will dance to a bad band, they’ll even dance to bad musicianship. They may not know that that shrill noise is too much 2k but watch their faces when the feedback kicks in. Good sound should be a priority as should a good groove. If a musician is not considering their tone and the bands tone then they’re not really engaging in the process. Sure it can get ridiculous but as I’ve said elsewhere if we know how to use our gear, understand what makes a good mix and our place in it then we’re informed enough to get by and sometimes that’s the best we can hope for. I do know that I’d hate to be the one person in my bands who was ruining the vibe or the mix because I didn’t care enough to take an interest.

It goes back to what Jus Lukin said if you don’t know how the gear works or how to get the best sound out of it you’ll never sound good. If it’s not sounding right after learning how it works then move on. We are spoilt for choice. Plus we grow accustomed to a sound and want to expand our horizon hence pedals, basses, amps always getting punted.. how many folk have sold up gear only to regret it six months later.

Looks like this panel is part of a footswitxh to engage the drive or mid remotely from the pedal itself judging by the new fb post.

I know Darren, just suggesting folks check him out 😀

I’m not sure I follow?

You could always rent it for a couple of weeks and see if it’s the missing link... fxPR have some..

Oooh 😉

It’s nice to know another function but again it’s getting a bit tedious. Once they reveal it it’ll all be a bit anti climactic.

Another we snippet of info

What he said. Parametric eq is a nightmare for the knob twiddler but if you know what you’re doing then it’s can provide a quick and easy fix and sort out a dodgy bit of feedback or rumble. It’s like tuning in a radio then cutting or boosting to fix the issue.

I think we’vetalked About the Cali76 cb before- great comp with variable hpf so the lows don’t trigger the comp too soon. See the Cali made sense all along

Yup I’m serious

His bass needs a set up. Did you hear that rattle?

I gigged a room once and every time I played a G note the room - not an 80lb combo, the friggin' room, rattled. "Can you not play that note?" asks the sound man! My response was along the lines of "Ach away and F**K right off! The only sympathetic thing you'll hear in here tonight mate is that vibration now get it fixed and do your job." I miss the good old days...*sigh*