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[quote name='tauzero' post='343177' date='Dec 2 2008, 04:29 PM']Oh. You mean you don't stick odd numbers of pennies onto the end of your bids? I always do. Might be that he really wanted to limit his highest bid to £380 but hated the thought that it might go for a couple of quid more than that.[/quote] Come on lets look at this objectively. Like you I ALWAYS chuck odd £ and pence on whatever I intend reasonably bidding (ie £400 is something like £403.55... or whatever) but you can't seriously think that someone bidding 'almost' £400 is going to bid £389.99? I accept that if the bidders limit was £380 that he might chuck a quid or a few pence on top of that, say £381.75 or whatever but £389.99... If your limit is £390 you'd at least bid £390 NOT £389.99 that is so close to the kind of rounded of bid that someone would usually place (£390) that you are almost begging to be beat. Sorry I have to say that if I see any bid of £XXX.99 that is just below a significant number then I'll have to think it's a dodgy bid. If the person genuinely wanted to bid to win, the least they would do is round it up to the nearest £ or a few pence over!

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='342077' date='Dec 1 2008, 04:50 PM']Which one are you bidding on? I only ask because I want to place a bid for £399 ... :brow:[/quote] Well I'm bidding £1001.01 so I'll beat you!

[quote name='tauzero' post='341898' date='Dec 1 2008, 01:48 PM']But they didn't put in a bid of 399-99, they put in a bid of 401. However, 399-99 of the bid was used to cover the previous maximum of 389-99 plus the increment of 10. As soon as someone bid more than 409-99 (399-99 plus increment), the bid went to its maximum of 401, hence the next bidder had to bid at least 411.[/quote] I think we're chasing the same thing around and we agree with each other. One of the bidders placed a bid of £389.99 which is a silly amount to bid UNLESS you want someone to just beat you with a bid of £400! My view is that the seller wanted to guarantee that he got £400, as it happens he achieved this and more so no need to continue bidding it up and risking not getting a sale by being the highest. Not that it matters I'm just passing comment so that less experienced bass playing/buying eBayers (what this section of the forum is directed at) can be aware of regular 'tricks'. Ultimately you bid what you want to bid and if you when, great but there are things to watch out for that can have you paying more than you need. Walk away from an auction being shill bidded and chances are it will come back again but the seller will be less inclined to bump things. I say this because I'm watching a bass that has followed the pattern of bidding that I outlined above and 'surprise surprise', it has been relisted for the third time due to 'non-paying bidders'. This time the bidding hasn't followed that pattern and the bids are staying remarkably low for the early stages of the auction (which they haven't done before). Time will tell if I am correct... and the bidding might still go daft at the end! Wish me luck.

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='341449' date='Nov 30 2008, 09:49 PM']Late to the thread, and it's often difficult to analyse auction bidding after the event, but I can't see the shill bidding on this one. By the time Bidder 11 slaps down his £389.99 there have already been 10 other bidders. Bidder 12 is presumably the £399.99 and the bid is that figure because eBay automatically adds £10 to the previous bid; Bidder 12 never actually placed a bid for that amount. The eventual winner gets into a small-scale final-seconds bidding war against Bidder 13 which takes the total to £436. Incidentally, I'm not a Fender fan and I don't much like sunburst finishes, but that is a truly beautiful bass. It may only say "Fender" in small letters on the headstock, but I reckon that's a pretty fair price.[/quote] [quote name='gareth' post='341490' date='Nov 30 2008, 10:37 PM']I don't see anything wrong with this auction. The bass is a nice condition JV precision and the final price is in line with recent sales.[/quote] I have no disagreement with the seller or the final price, it is worth what it is worth. However it ALWAYS sets alarm bells off when you have a bidder (i.e. bidder 11) putting in a bid of £389.99... £389.99... who 'genuinely' puts in a bid of £389.99 if they truly want to win something? Nobody, "not ever" puts a bid in of £XX9.99 if they want to win; that is a bid set to ensure that your shill bid is just below what you genuinely want. I've seen it soooooo many times you wouldn't believe it and if you don't trump that bid it is equally amazing how many 2nd chance offers you get.

[quote name='The Burpster' post='341191' date='Nov 30 2008, 03:44 PM']I laughed so much I wee'd a little...... [url="http://cgi.ebay.com/ELECTRIC-BASS-GUITAR-PRS-STYLE-BLACK_W0QQitemZ300254644692QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116"]http://cgi.ebay.com/ELECTRIC-BASS-GUITAR-P...p3286.m20.l1116[/url][/quote] Phew glad you warned me that it wasn't a PRS otherwise I might have hit the BIN. Uncannily (nothing) like a PRS.

[quote name='skankdelvar' post='341158' date='Nov 30 2008, 02:45 PM']Maybe it's just me, but I think £436 for a Squier - even a JV - is a bit daft. But it looks nice.[/quote] So £685 for a Squier is VERY silly? [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150310448903&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=005"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...A:IT&ih=005[/url] I had one of these early large Fender small Squier logo basses when they first came out and it was very good. Whether it is worth more 'as a player's bass' than a USA bass of a similar age/quality is a different matter.

Hey I'm always a bit sceptical and prone to getting it wrong occasionally but a bidder putting £389.99 and another bidder @ £399.99 smacks of shill bidding to me! Let's be honest even the most inexperienced eBayer goes for the straight rounded up figure (£400), whereas the wise/experienced eBay goes a couple of quid and a few coppers over the top of the nearest rounded figure (£401.01 or similar). What do you reckon? [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320320053866"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=320320053866[/url]

[quote name='bilbo230763' post='340628' date='Nov 29 2008, 05:16 PM']At last! A picture without a fruit machine in it! [url="http://www.jazz-nights.com/SaraMitraGallery3.htm"]http://www.jazz-nights.com/SaraMitraGallery3.htm[/url] PS Have I got the smallest stack in the world? [/quote] Jeez but you must be good... you've even got time to read a comic while you're playing!

So is it a coincidence that you and Homer went missing at the same time? ... oddly enough you come back within days of each other!

[quote name='NancyJohnson' post='340447' date='Nov 29 2008, 01:37 PM']Just get a Waterstone...you I love mine. They have some great new finishes and blocks on the neck now as well. P[/quote] You know that I would if I could find one in the UK at the right price... just not in those finishes.

The fact that his feedback has him selling a flat-bed tipper wagon and a front end damaged car (which the listing has been subsequently removed for) has me thinking... no I couldn't possibly say what it has me thinking; especially as one of you lot is going to come on and say that you drive a tipper and sell motors that you've put back on the road. Another eBay sale to chalk up as possibly best avoided.

That's a tricky one to call is that one! I agree that the user profile is such that I'd have my doubts but the pics do seem to tally with one location. If he were offering a single expensive guitar you'd have to be thinking 'If I can't collect I'm not bidding' and the fact that he has offered this option might well have people letting there guard down especially if they thinking they are getting a credit crunch bargain... 'IF' (big if) he is pulling a fast one I suppose he only has to ensnare one or two idiots who either pay by cheque or offer bank transfer and even if he has to dump on all those who want to collect then he's made a killing. The only genuine way of knowing pre auction end is if the guy allows someone like eubassix to try before they buy. Part of me thinks it may be straight but then I'm close enough that I'd be popping along to collect in person, if I lived the other end of the country I'd be erring on the side of caution and steering clear... shame that P bass wasn't sunburst!

It's always tricky to pat yourself on the back (metaphorically and physically) but don't leave yourself out of the role call Bob. I'm glad to see a happy ending to the whole sorry affair!

[quote name='The Funk' post='340210' date='Nov 29 2008, 01:02 AM']Can someone put this at the top of the thread so that people who don't pay attention like me don't put money into a fund that is overflowing? [/quote] Surely by paying into a fund that already has enough to cover the costs shows a truly generous altruistic spirit! The excess funds will be used for charity or for a worthy cause I assume... or will the donations be refunded when Jake pays back what he owes? Actually as a vehement supporter of the intentions behind this saga I am slowly but surely saddened by 'certain' attitudes towards this episode. That is not meant as a slight on The Funk or toward those that have contributed (financially and in effort/time) to Reule getting his bass.

[quote name='Danny' post='340203' date='Nov 29 2008, 12:58 AM']What would it matter if he did? You can't judge a persons worth based on their actions, or can you? [/quote] If you don't judge someone by their actions what do you judge them by... their intentions?

[quote name='Sean.Robinson' post='340010' date='Nov 28 2008, 07:28 PM']Its very much appreciated and youve addressed my main concern as id never heard of them until the trade was offered. so would we say £1500 is asking too much for this?[/quote] Put it this way; I'll probably be putting a 'very well known' manufacturers 5 string up for sale in about a week, which cost a bit more new than the mbass and I'd 'probably' be lucky to get a quick sale at the £1500 that you are asking! Draw your own conclusions from that

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='339915' date='Nov 28 2008, 05:37 PM']Ah.. shame! They did it acoustic, partly to promote a full band gig there a week or so later. We'll cross paths one day! [b]WH... I do have that clip. It's hilarious viewing for everyone but me, I imagine... [/b][/quote] Oh please for me, put it up even if you delete it as soon as [b]I've[/b] watched it.

[quote name='Sean.Robinson' post='339917' date='Nov 28 2008, 05:38 PM']hi, ive just been offered a mbass on a trade, but as i dont know much about them i dont know how good of a trade it is, does anyone know what there value is secondhand?[/quote] I know nothing about them but value is dead easy... what someone is prepared to pay. I'm not trying to be arsey but they are approx $3500 for a new 4 stringer so in the current climate you can slash 50% off that for it being used, even if it is basically 'new'. After that start praying that someone is looking for exactly what you have otherwise the price is going down from there. If you were talking about a well known, desirable manufacturer that has a proven track record of holding value then you could value it differently but mbass? Probably great basses but value is a fickle thing. Just my humble wotsit.