Nail Soup

I feel kind of bad about it - but in a different way. Normally I can find something at least about a famous deceased which I liked.... they had a couple of good singles, a couple of good jokes or whatever. But in the case of EVH the whole guitar technique he developed (and is justifiably lauded for) did absolutely nothing for me - zilch. So I feel sad for him, his family/friends and fans.... but not directly. ☹️

I guess that song is related to this one - seems to share some lyrical ideas and tune - first heard it on Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds "Kicking Against the Pricks" covers album.

It’s an acquired taste😉

Works: Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band...... fantastic album. Doesnt work: I think generally not good, but a good representative example mot coming to mind

Yes, I already understood that. My point is that if eveyone is trying to play ahead of the beat then what would happen?

Just thinking about playing behind/ahead of the beat. Does it need to be done by arrangement between band members? I'm thinking that if the drummer and bass player both decide to play ahead of the beat it would lead to either both playing on the beat, or a run-away speeding up of the song? Or slowing down for playing behind? So how does it work?

I'm not going specifacally for a bass player, but he happens to be one. I'm not going for someone who no-one who has ever heard of but I think is great (although there are lots to choose from!). That is just a matter of taste rather than under-rating. I'm going for someone who is not in my top list of favourite bands, but whenever I hear them I shake my head at the lack of credit this player gets................... ..... and it is Andy Rourke of the Smiths. His bass playing is as engaging (more on a lot of occasions) as Marrs guitar playing, but scarcely any recognition.

For sure we can skip past them, but I guess the OP was trying to find out what the rest of us think about them...... .... so here goes..... It can seem a bit off if it smacks of self-promotion, which it sometimes will. Might be different if an established artist did it for someone who never got the recognition they deserved in life I guess.

Just heard on 6 Music that Bunny Lee has died aged 79. Responsible for many reggae and dub productions.

This evening on 6 Music (6'oclock UK time I think) on the Steve Lamaq show. As part of a classic albums series.... today it's Handsworth Revolution by Steel Pulse. Steve will play the whole album plus discussion with David Hines. Will be available on BBC Sounds player of course!

Bill Laswell of Last Exit was also in a band with Mick Harris of Napalm Death , along with John Zorn: Painkiller Not surprisingly they played a kind of extreme free jazz/metal hybrid: I bought the first album at the time for the Mick Harris connection....... Zorn/Laswell may not have came on to my radar otherwise.

Oops ..... you were on it pretty quick!

I'm surprised it took this long for someone to question the premise of the OP!

I guess Gary is not the only one. That's the trouble with blues..... it might seem like it's a technical genre, but really it's not.... you need the feel first, the nyou can extend it with technique. Someone with the right feel can play a great blues with an open E chord and a couple of simple emelishments. Many years ago, my parents bought me a place at residential "Blues Guitar" weekend workshop as a birthday present.... the guy teaching it had absolutely no concept that playing blues was anything other than technical excercise. I was really dissapointed as I was hoping for some who would help us tap into our inner blues-person!

Liked it, but was expecting a bit of this:

At risk of stating the obvious, the mixer can also be used as a mixer... so if you have plans to aquire a small mixer at some point anyeay, then it may then become a better option. But I guess the mixer option would not extend to more than two pairs of headphones.

Nice update! I saw the Smyths a year or so ago, and the bass player was great (but so were the others!) .

I'd say that if you are successful guitarist then you don't have weak points as such. There's probably stuff theycan't do, but you have incorperated that inability into their style and it works. Or did I miss the point?

Comes in a lead guitarist version too:

Idles doing a 30 minute live set on 6 music ..... sounding great so far , two songs in.

I can't think of a good story from first hand, but here's a second hand one - not great but the best I've got. I was at work and new guy joined from an agency, and I recognised him as a drummer from the original local punk scene - a bit older than me, who crucially was there at the start of punk. I was a team leader, and he was in my team, so it already felt a bit wierd! Turns out he was great at his job, and of course I subtly quizzed him about his punk band days. He said that his time with the band ended when he had an argument over something at a reheasal, swore at the rest of the band, stormed out and smashed the fire alarm on the way out.

I've been playing for many years, and have often heard about playing ahead or behind the beat. I've never totally understood it, but I think it's often unconcius and contributes to the feel of the music. I've most often heard it in the context of "Player A plays ahead/behind the beat" - which suggests it's a natural thing. It's something Id like to understand more, but I'm not sure I could conciously go ahead or behind at will.

Thanks - I'll now be thinking about this next time I use the stairs!

I blame the parents !

In any band I've been in, we all just follow each other.... or follow the song. That's how it feels anyway. But having said that, it is proably the drummer who has the most influence or leading role. It can work the other way round too I guess..... it's the drummer who has the most possibilty to drag the band down. I guess the phrase 'only good as the drummer' is there for a reason. But maybe if I were playing more groove-based music I would follow the drummer more?????