Nail Soup

Perhaps silver could be reserved for the strings which are on a real bass.......

I've been trawling through te TV recorder and watching the old stuff I never watched. This week it's a 2009Japanese film called "Fish Story". It's about fictional punk band in Japan in 1975 who invented punk before the Pistols. The Films pretty good, and the I really like the music. I can't work out who made the music though. Here is the main/title song which recurs throughout (note: it goes punk after the intro): Here's one more song clip: As an added bonus the bass player in the band is the leader, song-writer etc.

my ever so slightly interesting story regarding Hot Chocolates original bass player...... Many years ago my driving instructor told me that he was previously a session musician - guitar. One of his circle of friends/colleagues was the original bassist of Hot Chocolate (who basically formed the group and co-songwriter) - Tony Wilson. My driving instructor was invited by Tony to join the group at the start ("I've written some great songs with a great singer") but declined because he had too many projects fail before. Just think - If history had worked differently I may not be able to drive today!

I didn't know about it either. I will download it. BTW - I had forgotten about Gary Crowley!

I heard about this episode, and have been looking forward to the repeat. Thnaks for the notice! Sounds like it's not great though........... but I'll still watch or record it.. I'll categorise the repair on the following scale: Great>Good>OK>-Bad>Awful>Even-I-Could-Have-Done-It-Better

sorry for thread diversion.......... I don't think so. I think the basic issue was that Jones and Cook were kind of 'power pop' (coun't find better word, sorry) and Rotten wanted to do something experimental. Matlock was in the same mind-set as Cook/Jones. I don't think Rotten would have done another album based on rock&roll riffs.

Great idea.... I'd love to go down that road. It's been gaining a little bit of traction in my family, but not there yet. Apologies to @Mike Brooks for trying to bring down the concept of Xmas gifts in the Xmas gift thread! Actually I am more open to present giving to people who have some kind of list of things they want - e.g. Bassists. My in-laws for example have no hobbies or interests and there is nothing to really buy them .

I think he was also considered as a hired hand on NMTB??? In the end Steve Jones recorded the bass, I think simplifying the parts a bit from what Matlock had. Around the time of the Filthy Lucre tour Lydon said that much of the animosity between Matlock and Lydon was stoked by McClaren anyway. Now is that something we could imagine Malcolm doing?

This one comes to mind: The Dickies - The Incredible Shrinking Dickies ........comes in at just under 27 mins. The songs are are short and fast, and it does seem long enough.

Great playing - well done Clair! OK, her name is not Clair.... but I did have to Google it! Am I a heathen?

JJ Burnel. Great player, and gets acknowledged as such.

One of my favourites too,........ .........but (pedant on) I think that was a Dee-Dee Ramone lyric (and music). As I understand it: if the Ramones song is about love etc then it's probably Joey.... all the Geeks, Cretins, Lobotomies and general Ramones-world stuff are probably Dee-Dee.

Great thread........ here's the youtube link mentioned previously - just had a listen in memory of Brian...... and it's a great track!

Good point, well made😄! The pursuit of unnecessary perfection!!

I made the same choice... well it was no contest really, PIL all the way. When Metal Box was released on vinyl it was 2*33, so I guess it qualifies for this thread. The Clash and John Lydon both decided to progress from punk, but did it in two different ways. London's Calling sounded like the past, Metal Box sounded like the future.

I guess Townsend was a songwriter first and foremost...... with rhythm and lead guitar very much second and third respectively - thus happy to allow John do that 'lead bass' role when he showed the inclination/ability to do so. I'm not sure the isolation does much for John though - his lines were already clearly audible in the final mix, and they just sound a bit worse on their own. For some other player who made good lines but was buried: I can see why the isolated tracks can prove something.

Nope, still working!

Well, you're a right nasty pasty if you did.

I feel kind of bad about it - but in a different way. Normally I can find something at least about a famous deceased which I liked.... they had a couple of good singles, a couple of good jokes or whatever. But in the case of EVH the whole guitar technique he developed (and is justifiably lauded for) did absolutely nothing for me - zilch. So I feel sad for him, his family/friends and fans.... but not directly. ☹️

I guess that song is related to this one - seems to share some lyrical ideas and tune - first heard it on Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds "Kicking Against the Pricks" covers album.

It’s an acquired taste😉

Works: Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band...... fantastic album. Doesnt work: I think generally not good, but a good representative example mot coming to mind

Yes, I already understood that. My point is that if eveyone is trying to play ahead of the beat then what would happen?

Just thinking about playing behind/ahead of the beat. Does it need to be done by arrangement between band members? I'm thinking that if the drummer and bass player both decide to play ahead of the beat it would lead to either both playing on the beat, or a run-away speeding up of the song? Or slowing down for playing behind? So how does it work?

I'm not going specifacally for a bass player, but he happens to be one. I'm not going for someone who no-one who has ever heard of but I think is great (although there are lots to choose from!). That is just a matter of taste rather than under-rating. I'm going for someone who is not in my top list of favourite bands, but whenever I hear them I shake my head at the lack of credit this player gets................... ..... and it is Andy Rourke of the Smiths. His bass playing is as engaging (more on a lot of occasions) as Marrs guitar playing, but scarcely any recognition.