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You might need to check the speakers used before deciding that. If they use 4 x 32 ohm speakers to give you a 8 ohm cab, you can simply connect your four cabs in parallel. but if they are wiring four 8 ohm speakers in series/parallel, then your separate box connections will be come a bit more complicated, and two 2x10" cabs might be an easier option. David

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They feel different in that the tensioned string does not have the length beyond the nut, and round the tuning peg, so the string is not as 'elastic' as a conventional bass. Also, with a short body and no horn, a bass strap will hold the bass two frets to the left of a typical bass, which takes time to get used to. If you play on crowded stages, open mic nights or under a small gazebo, having a shorter bass is much easier to work with. David

If you wire the amplifer output to a Jack plug, it will be shorted out momentarily every time you plug it into a socket when both the tip and the sleeve are moving passed the first contact, and possibly also when the Jack plug is unplugged and dangling free. On most occasions, the amp will be off, but one day it won't be, and since it was designed to be permanently connected to a speaker, it probably does not have short circuit protection built in. I had a similar arrangement with a high-powered speaker in a low-powered combo, with the option of using an external higher-powered amp. Setting up in a hurry on a dark stage, I managed to connect the output of one amp to the output of the other. The bigger amp fried the smaller one. I've since redesigned it to make sure it can't happen again. Whatever you do, it has to be idiot proof, so I'd suggest a 10 Amp two way switch with the speaker connected to the switch wiper, and one switch contact connected to the amp and the other to a speakon socket. No risk of shorting either amp, and nice big contacts on the switch and the plug/socket. David

400W @ 1KHz but at lower frequencies it runs out of cone movement well before that. David

Eminence provide speaker design details for most of their speakers, but you have to go to that speaker page to get to them. For your unit they offer this - http://www.eminence.com/pdf/Delta_12A_cab.pdf In a large box, it goes deep, but has limited power handling (2.5 cu ft / 60Hz / 50W). In a smaller box, it handles more power, but does not go as deep (1.35 cu ft / 78Hz / 100W or 0.75 cu ft / 100Hz / 200W). It might work in a monitor wedge, but not very well as a bass guitar speaker. David

Had two gigs yesterday - Left home at about 08:45 with my battery powered gear to get to Wythenshawe to set up bass gear and PA for a 10:00 start. Busked until 16:00 with two half hour breaks. Packed up and got home at 17:10. Loaded in the battery rig and loaded out the mains rig. Left home at about 18:00 heading for a village fair in a field in Weaverham. Set up by 19:30 - pie and chips while the other act was on, then were were on for just over an hour. Packed up while the crowd watched the fireworks - got home about 22:15. Today we started about 10:30, busking in the entrance of a local Tesco Extra. We had two bass players, so we shared the load. Musically, it was mixed - we don't have set lists, so you know most of the songs being covered, until the lead busker decides to try out a new one. For paid gigs like the evening one, we have a smaller pot of songs that we know well, but we still follow whatever the lead busker decides to do next. All the donations and payments go directly to Cancer Research UK. David http://www.loosechangebuskers.org.uk/

I'm no expert, but the style reminds me of early transistor amplifiers, which were about 100W each. It may not be very loud. David

In theory, yes you can, but in practice it would not be a good idea. Jack sockets for speakers are fairly robust, and may cope with 500W, but jacks intended to switch signal inputs tend to be more fragile. A better solution might be to install a double pole two way switch and switch the amplifier output between the internal speaker and a speakon or jack socket. Speakons are designed for that job, many jack sockets are not. David

Harley Benton being built for a German company, and Fender being a US company, could it be that your existing allen keys are imperial and the HB needs a metric one? David

Picking up on what others have said, there are two types of earth 1) A safety earth designed to blow the fuse quickly if there is a fault 2) A signal earth - often the return path of your signal circuit, or a screen to protect your signal circuit. The green/yellow wire in your mains plug is type 1, the screen in your instrument cable is type 2. The earth lift is designed to break the circuit of a type 2 earth where it might conflict with a type 1 earth, as with a DI signal between two items of mains-powered equipment. Hum can be caused by having two earth paths to a piece of equipment, ad DAD3353 mentions, but can also be caused by noisy electronics on the same circuit, or close by. The fact that the hum is location dependent, and also affects the guitarist's passive instrument, makes that the most likely culprit in my opinion. So, in those problem venues, try and identify any local lighting, gaming machines, etc, which may be plugged in to to the circuit you use, and see if the hum goes away when they are switched off. Fluorescent lighting would be an obvious candidate. David

I've been putting off posting this. My problem is that all I have are the sketches and notes that I used to build a prototype, and I do not have the skills (nor the motivation) to redraw everything so it is as clear as the instructions you would get with a kit. If there is sufficient interest, and someone wants to take that on, I wouldn't have a problem with that. This is the layout of the current battery powered head. At the back of the head, the feed to the amplifier is fused, and the feed from the battery is fused, so regardless of whether the amp is being run from an external battery, or the internal battery is being connected to a an external power source, they have some protection. I transport the head with the external battery-out and amp-in connectors disconnected, so that I cannot arrive at the venue with a part-discharged battery due to the power switch being knocked in transit. Slightly left of centre is a stereo class D amplifier pcb capable of giving 22 W into 4 ohms per channel on a 12-13 volt supply, or about 10 W into 8 ohms per channel. Each channel contains two amplifiers in bridge mode, so you cannot bridge them to obtain more power. The pcb is designed around a TA2020 chip originally made by TriPath (and marketed as 'CLass T' just to confuse things). Various pcb designs are available, but I can only comment on this one. The sensitivity is high enough that you can plug an active bass directly into it, so if you have on-board EQ, you just need this pcb amp, a speaker or two, a battery (hopefully with a fuse) and you are go to go. Alternatively, you can buy an off-the-shelf amp and preamp in a box. Googling [Tripath amplifier pcb] found this supplier of the amp module that I used - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MKIII-Tripath-TA2020-PCB-25watt-Class-T-amplifier-UK-/251464814688?clk_rvr_id=1520242820360&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=twenga&utm_campaign=twenga&utm_param=eyJlcyI6MCwicyI6OTcyMDIzNywiY2kiOiIwMzhhMTZkNDRlYWJmMDNmNjZiODRkYzNjZWUzYTQ1NSIsImkiOiIyNTE0NjQ4MTQ2ODgiLCJ0cyI6MTUyNTQ1NzQ4MCwidiI6Mywic28iOjE1MDAsImMiOjE0OTcwfQ%3D%3D&rmvSB=true Power supply To the right of the enclosure is the power supply pcb. This is the circuit and layout. The stripboard tracks run along the longer dimension, and are only shown where they are needed; links run across the shorter dimension; cuts in the track are shown with an x. This provides a fused feed for the preamp circuits, and a mid-supply voltage rail so that the op-amps can run with plus and minus supplies. The chip used is a TLE2426 which will be difficult to get cheaply unless you have an account with CPC or RS Components. An alternative would be a pair of dividing resistors each parallelled by a capacitor, as discussed here - http://sound.whsites.net/project43.htm Input circuit The front right pcb provides input buffering and gain, muting, and a feed to the tuner jack socket on the back of the amp. This is the circuit and layout. There are two input sockets, for active and passive basses. Plugging in to the passive (right) jack socket feeds through the left socket switch contacts and into the first stage op-amp. Alternatively, plugging into the active (left) jack socket opens the switches and places an attenuator in the signal path, bringing the level down to match that of a passive bass. The two jack sockets are standard Cliff or similar, where the jack socket contacts cross the tube where the jack plug fits, and are physically lifted by the insertion of a jack plug. These sockets are available with pcb pins, but they are not at 0.1 inch spacing, and do not fit stripboard. However, if you take one with solder tags, cut off half of each solder tag, and squash the remaining bit into a crude pin, it will be pretty close to the spacing you need, although the stripboard hole will need to be enlarged. The first stage op-amp feeds a buffer to the tuner jack socket, and feeds the filter pcb via the mute switch. The other pole of the mute switch is used to change the supply polarity to the front panel LED, so it shows red when muted and green when live. Filter circuit The front left pcb in the first image contains the variable HPF, variable LPF, volume control and buffers to feed the line out and amplifier pcb. This is the circuit and layout. The dual op-amp 1A and 1B is used in two standard filter Sallen Key circuits giving a roll-off of 12dB/octave. The HPF is optimised as a Butterworth filter, giving a sharp cutoff and good transient response while the LPF has a more gentle transition, intended to take out fret and string noise. The HPF operates between 30 and 120Hz (copied from FDeck's design), while the LPF operates from 20KHz down to 200Hz (copied from a Walter Harley design from 2000). I prefer to use Omeg conductive plastic potentiometers because I like the way they feel, but they have a gap of 2 rows between the two tracks. Conventional carbon 16mm potentiometers have a gap of 1 row between the two tracks, so if you want to use them you will need to modify the layout slightly. The authors of the original designs both recommended antilog potentiometers and lamented their lack of availability, settling for a log pot working backwards instead. I have used linear potentiometers and they work well over the important part of the range, but antilog pots are now readily available in carbon, although not in conductive plastic. The dual op-amp 2A and 2B is used to feed the amplifier module at the right level, and to provide a buffered line output. On both the input and filter pcbs, there is a link to allow ground-lift for the tuner, line out and amplifier out in case there were earth loop problems. I had no problems, so the earths can be hard-wired in. Apart from the supply-splitting chip TLE2426, and conductive plastic dual 100K potentiometers, all components are available from www.bitsbox.co.uk and the conductive plastic potentiometers from rapidonline.co.uk. David

My experience of that hardware is that this 'headstock' string anchor will not take a roundwound or flatwould B string. The T-bars clamp the strings behind the zero fret, but after that each string is bent through 90 degrees to be clamped by a grub screw. Thick strings don't bend like that. One option is to drill out the string anchor so that each string passes through the hole where the grub screw was, and then use a separate anchor block to clamp them, as used in the conversion of double ball end headless basses. Alternatively, you can cut away most of the metal which holds the grub screws, leaving enough of a slope or a lip to retain the new string anchor, and proceed as above. David

Not quite relevant to the OP, but may be of use - Something that I only discovered recently - shortly after the purchase of a new mixer - is that small mixers that have a low voltage AC supply for them, typically 2 x 18 Vac, like Behringer, Mackie etc, cannot be used with basic 12 V to 240 V inverters. The harmonics on the outputs of cheap inverters cause small transformers to overheat and fail very quickly. Switched mode power supplies giving a DC output are fine. David

The bottom line is that acoustic instruments will feed back at relatively low volumes. In my experience, if you control the PA, stay acoustic: if someone else is controlling the PA, user a solid bodied bass. If you stay acoustic, you have a number of solutions, but A) As mentioned above, a notch filter will take out one offending frequency, but there may be other resonant frequencies almost as bad. B) A preamp with a phase switch in it will allow you to swap the phase to see which gives you more headroom - if your pickup is in phase with your speaker, it will feed back earlier. C) As mentioned above, plugging the sound hole(s) will give you more headroom, so if you are talking about something like an Ovation, 20mm lengths of rolled up foam pipe lagging in each hole will get you most of the way there. D) Using a variable high-pass filter can also reduce feedback problems, and can be used to take care of the lower of two resonances while a notch filter takes care of the upper one. I have a 5-string ABG and I use its notch filter and phase switch, a planet waves feedback buster, and a variable HPF. David

Depending on your definition of a Uke bass, there are three models in the Aquila Shortbass one range. Using a 23.5 inch scale and taking thundergut reds, the '60 has a bowl back and the '12 has a conventional body. The '14 has a 26 inch scale length. http://www.shortbassone.com/?cat=4&lang=en Bass Direct and Bass Centre prices seem to be around £400, but no one seems to have stock at the moment. I don't have one - I'm just an interested observer David

I've gone in a slightly different direction to get to the same place. We put the PA at the back of the band so we do not need to carry monitors - that means I stand between the PA speaker and the drummer and I can't hear my own rig. I started with a belt-mounted upmarket 'me/them' mixer like the Behringer P1, but I found that my budget in-ears did not keep out enough stage noise, so I sent that back and went for a small (cheaper) desktop mixer and an upgraded pair of in-ears. I now use the Shure SE215s, but I had to get the optional 'chistmas tree' type plugs to get good isolation. I take a feed from the nearest PA speaker through a resistive attenuator: a feed from my speaker output through a resistive attenuator; through the mixer and into my IEMs. Studiospares do a figure-of-8 twin microphone cable which gives me a 'bass to amp' feed on one side and a 'headphone left and right' on the other side. A belt-mounted plastic box holds the plug/socket adaptor to get from stereo jackplug to 3.5mm jack socket for the IEMs. The reason for taking a feed from the bass-speaker connection is that I want to know if it fails. David

Our band fund-raises for Cancer Research UK - £429,000 in 8 years and hoping to hit £500K by Christmas. Band diary said 7:00 so I got there for about 6:15. Bar staff didn't know what was going on. 6:50 and still no audience, or other band members - starting to get worried. The rest of the band turned up shortly after 7:00 and started phoning other venues with similar names (xxx conservative club) - the band leader started looking for the organiser's phone number. Eventually we got confirmation that we were in the right place, but not expected to play until 8:00. It was a charity event with little (if any) publicity. Got set up and ready to play - still no audience unless you count the 5 punters watching football at the other end of the room. Started playing at about 8:15 and the audience gradually built up over the next couple of hours. We stopped at just after 11:00 by which time the room held about 40 people, 5 of whom were interested and the rest treated us as wallpaper music. We got paid and we got half of the raffle money, all of which goes to Cancer Research UK, but it was hard work. David

I've taken out almost all notifications, just leaving in the 'automatically follow content' and I haven't had an error message so far, doing exactly what I have been doing in the past, so thanks to Ped - you probably have cracked it. David

For the last week or two Firefox has been giving me error messages saying that a web page is slowing down my browser, when the only web page I have open is Basschat. It appears to be caused by the 'Unread Content' page refreshing after I have viewed and then closed a thread. Right clicking and opening a thread in a new tab, then closing, does not produce the error message. Any thoughts on how I fix this? David

You've checked the cable, you've checked the speaker cab, Working back upstream, the chances of both speaker jack sockes developing the same fault is fairly remote, so my starting point would be inside the amp casing. The internal mains wiring and terminals should be insulated, but if you are not competent to work out whether that is true in your case, don't go there. a) There is a relay that does not connect the amplifier to the speakers until all the switch-on surges etc have been and gone. It may be inhibited by a fault, so listen for the click a second or so after you switch on. That will tell you if it is trying to connect, or not. If you do not hear a click, it could be due to (b) or (c) below. b) One of the fuses connecting power to the amplifier circuit may have blown, so check for blown fuses in holders on the pcb. If you find one, there is an obvious question to ask - why did it blow? c) You will find four or six transistors bolted to a heatsink that the fan is blowing air at/though. Check if the fan is working, and the fan grill and heatsink are clear of fluff/dead mice/etc. A clean heatsink and a working fan are good signs, but the fan may not operate until the temperature rises, so this is not a definite tick in the box. A well-designed amplifier should shut down undamaged if it overheats, but it is possible that yours doesn't, and a thermal fuse has blown. I've had two amplifiers with faulty outputs, and both were due to faulty output relays, so I'm slightly biased. David

Some time ago, FDeck (of HPF fame) suggested that if you knew what kind of sound you wanted, and didn't need a lot of fundamental (e.g. for DB) you could do your back a favour and use smaller cabs. This was one of the triggers for this design. I used the HPF of a Fishman Platinum Pro, and the HPF of a graphic EQ to identify how much bass loss was too much, and concluded that provided that the response got down to 70 Hz, it did not sound bass-lite (to me). Having identified the cutoff frequency, the next problem was what to do with the frequencies below the cutoff, where the speaker would be unloaded. After a few more evenings playing with WinISD, I found that a 12dB/Octave filter at about 55Hz would reduce the cone excursion below the resonance and keep it within Xmax, even with an input signal equivalent to 120W on the output. This WinISD screenshot shows the frequency response of a 25.5L box, with (red) and without (green) the filter, and two larger boxes for comparison - maximum bass extension (blue) and optimised by WinISD (grey). This WinISD screenshot shows the cone movement for a 120 W signal. Everything without the filter overloads above 40Hz. Given that a bass note is a mix of fundamental and harmonics, this may not be a problem, and I have played bass through these cabs without the filter, but I feel safer having the filter in circuit. Finally, this WinISD screenshot shows the power handling of the various cabs. the two 25.5 L cabs have identical traces, but the other two both have considerably worse power handling in the 50-100Hz region, where most of the energy of the note is likely to be. This prompted me to stay with the smaller volume cab with an HPF. I hope this image contains all the information required to build a cab. If not, please let me know. David

After the recent North West bass bash, lurksalot commented that I should start a build thread for my small battery powered amplifier in case anyone was contemplating a similar folly. Some of this has already been posted on another forum, but since photobucket has blanked out all the images, it seemed to make sense to start at the beginning with a new thread. I play a lot with acoustic guitarists, either busking, or at open mic nights, and my existing combo, a Hartke Kickback 10, was adequate, but rather heavy, and limiting because I had to sit by the power socket so as not to trail cables across the floor. My initial specification was based on the Hartke, with a bit of Phil Jones Briefcase thrown in - about 100W, one 10 inch speaker, one 7 AHr 12 volt battery and 2-3 hours of use per charge. I had already built a couple of Jack 10s. so I had a 10 inch speaker to hand - an Eminence basslite S2010, and for a small box, WinISD suggests a volume of 0.9 cu ft (25.5L)and a port tuned to 58Hz. Eminence offer similar figures on their website. The Mk I was a simple reflex box with the preamp, amp and battery mounted on a plywood plate that could be carried separately, or bolted onto the back of the cab. The amp is a Kenwood car stereo module, containing a switch-mode power supply to give positive and negative voltage rails, and a 60W @ 2ohms pair of class AB amplifiers, so it gives a genuine 120 W into 4 ohms bridged. It was unwieldy and cumbersome to carry when bolted together, and a pain to work with in a crowded room when loaded in in bits. Also, the battery life was OK for an acoustic evening, but for a day of busking I needed more power, so I had another think. The MkII had the same volume and porting, but incorporated the amp in a recess in the back, space for three 7 AHr batteries in the base, and a space for the preamp in the front. The woodwork suddenly became a bit more complicated - And the final result. This one was easier to carry, but the amp, which normally runs cool to the touch, now runs too hot due the lack of circulating air. At this point I started wondering whether I could find a class D amplifier module, and redesign the cab around that. The Mk III used a class D stereo amplifier chip on a ready made pcb - readily available from ebay. Just for a change, I made the cab smaller to accomodate the amp and speaker in the same volume as the Mk I speaker. Having recently aquired an Ashdown MyBass 550 in a trade, I was keen to be able to use it with this pair of speakers, so I added extra speakons and switches to the back of the cab so I could connect either the internal amp or the external amp to the speaker, or connect the internal amp to an external speaker. Almost inevitably, while setting up in a hurry on a dark stage, I managed to connect the output of the MyBass to the output of the battery amp - the MyBass won. At that point I decided that I should go modular, and have separate heads that clipped onto the top of the cab. No more switching options to get wrong, just clip the head on before you leave home and you're good to go. This is the Mk IV - the current version. The Mk III cab was butchered to convert it into a MK I style cab, and kitchen-cupboard kick-plate fasteners were fitted to anchor the clip-on amplifier modules The battery combo: The mains combo: This is the battery powered amp and battery with an earlier version of the preamp. I need to take some more photos before I post the next installment. David

Thanks for that - I'll check it out. David

Firstly, can I say that I too really enjoyed the day, and add my thanks to those who organised it. That amp has an HPF, and an LPF and no other EQ. The power stage is a 10W @ 8ohms or 20W @ 4ohms class D stereo amp available on ebay. With the internal 12V 2AHr battery (common in burglar alarms) and one cab, it will run all night at an acoustic open mic night, and with a 7AHr(scooter battery), it will run with two speakers for several hours, in a band with mic'd acoustic guitars and vocals and one or two conga players. I'm happy to share - but first I need to find a replacement for Photobucket - Am I right in thinking I can link to pictures in Dropbox?