LeftyP

I wish my playing was as 'meh' as that!

Were your guitar straps long enough?

So you don't like the name Paul for a bass? I think it sounds great - but then what do you think the 'P' stands for in my forum name?

Don't know about Joe Hubbard but I will check out his videos. I find Scott Devine very watchable and have subscribed to his latest techniques course. He's also from Carlisle so that's another plus point! Mark Smith at Talking Bass is the one I watch most and have learned some good tips from him. Also a shout out to Scott Whitley who's explanation of arpeggios was a light bulb moment for me. I play one of his bass guitars (via Chowny) so he gets a thumbs up from me. There are plenty of videos on YouTube about bass playing so I tend to mix 'n' match as needed.

I know this thread is aimed at gigging bands in a pub setting but for another slant on things; I play bass in our church band. I only play about once a month and I'm the only bass player so three weeks out of four there is no bottom end (apart from the piano left hand). Word has got back that when I've played the general feeling from the congregation is that the band sounded very good. I keep it simple so it's not my skills along the fret board but rather that, with the bass, the band has a more rounded sound. No-one has actually complemented me on my playing but they just liked the overall sound. My wife does get many complements about her clarinet playing, which annoys her because she plays oboe!

Yes, I'll keep off those scales for a while!!

I agree with Mark on this. I had to buy my current bass on-line as we have one local music store with a minimal variation on the Fender theme in it. When my bass arrived the weight took me by surprise and I have injured the internal workings of my left arm whilst trying to get my bass (in its Gator case) through a self closing door. The weight (approx 8lbs via bathroom scales) is an issue for this soon to be 68 year old bass player. My old Tanglewood violin bass weighs just under 2lbs (again bathroom scales so not 100% accurate). For those of us that no longer have a music shop near at hand, the internet offers our best selection of bass guitars. Stating the weight of each instrument is, surely, not a lot to ask?

I've signed up too. I watch Scott's free videos on YouTube but am not an academy member. I think getting the basics right will help my playing. I have noticed that when I've been doing more practice, my left (fretting) hand aches across the back and my left arm also aches. This could be that I'm using my hand and arm in a way they are not used to being used or my technique is all wrong. Like building a house, getting the foundations right helps for the building of a good structure.

Hi Steve Good to have another Cumbrian on board.

Clearly an emotional performance as you certainly MOOOOOOOOVED the audience! I bet other posters will milk this.

No, just Gaffer Tape - and not an empty washing up liquid bottle in sight!

My Chowny SWB-1 is a very good short scale bass guitar. However, what it lacks in length it more than makes up for in weight! Once placed in its Gator case it makes going to the gym redundant! I would like a soft gig-bag for the bass but don't know which one would fit. There is no way I'm going to lug the guitar and Gator case around music shops and looking on-line is just confusing so........... A couple of pieces of cardboard from the bottom of a large carton, and a snip of Gaffer Tape came to my rescue. I laid the guitar on the cardboard sheets, drew round it and then cut out the shape. The Gaffer Tape join allows me to fold the template in half and I can take into guitar shops and try out the gig-bags for size. I amaze myself sometimes. The added bonus was the fact that I love the sound of scissors cutting card - I'll go quietly.

This is an interesting discussion because, although the player will notice the difference in build quality and playability (is that actually a word?), I doubt your average punter, listening in a club, could tell the difference between the sound of a custom job and a £99 Argos special. Would you be happy taking your custom built, expensive instrument into a beer swilling pub full of ravers? My wife's oboe is worth several thousand pounds but she also has a cheaper student model as she teaches oboe. To the untrained ear (mine) they both sound like..... an oboe! If you have the money and want to treat yourself to a bespoke bass guitar, help yourself and you'll get no criticism from me - it's nice to have quality items like guitars, watches, cameras etc. There must be a crossover point though where the amount of money spent does not offer any significant improvement.

Being semi-retired (more retired than semi!) I can spend a good amount of time playing the bass at home. However, I have found that practicing for 30 minutes then going off for an hour or so, or longer, to do something else and then doing another 30 minutes works for me. I'm still getting back into playing and I find if I play for more than about 30 minutes my left (fretting) hand begins to ache - not to mention my back. If I try to practice a song for more than 30 minutes I feel as though I make more mistakes the longer I play. That could be tiredness, boredom or over confidence. I use backing tracks, chord charts and (if I can get them) the bass parts in sheet music. I have signed up for Scott's Bass Lessons new 26 week technique course to correct any playing habits I may have picked up and I hope that will enable me to pluck the strings for longer and more accurately.

Great looking bass. I like the fact that there is no chrome on it. I'm looking at replacing the chrome tuners and bridge on my SWB-1 with matt black ones, having already swapped the volume and tone knobs. I just prefer the understated, workmanlike look rather than bling.

On a similar theme - though not actually a heckle; Many years ago I was at a concert in a folk club and the main act was the Scottish duo "The Corries" - they were big on the folk scene back in the late 60s/early 70s and were very good. Between songs one of the pair was tuning up his guitar and after a short while the other one said, "Funny, it was in tune when he bought it!" Oh, how we laughed. I think I've mentioned this next one before but I was chatting to a singer from the Channel Islands who was touring the UK mainland for the first time. He said he knew he had to leave his home venues when a punter walked up to him - mid-song - and asked if he had change for the jukebox!

I've been very busy with messages about the drum machine and the other items I have. Thanks for all your interest. I'll message you individually about the gear but the drum machine and portastudio have been spoken for. The Studer will need to be collected because it is a substantial piece of kit. Eddie Stobart's main depot is only a short drive away from my house but I don't think they would take on that delivery!

If you are a body builder or own a fork lift truck you can take this hefty professional tape deck away for free. Make no mistake - it is heavy! The Studer was used in a friend's recording studio but he is old and a little infirm and is closing his studio, so he gave it to me. I nice gesture but I can't use it. It does have a fault on it which, I understand, is easily fixed by replacing a capacitor. Check out Studer B67 on YouTube and you will find one that has the same problem - when switched on smoke comes out of it! Don't panic Captain Mainwaring once the smoke drifts away it still works but it is rather alarming. I understand this fault was not that unusual with this model. I have a pile of 10" tapes to go with it but no NAB centres. With a little check over it will make a fine addition to an analogue studio.

I'm clearing out old studio equipment and offer this Tascam 564 Digital Portastudio to anyone who would like it for free. It is old technology but works well using special Mini-Discs (I have a pack of 5). Full instruction book with it.

Free to a good home. A little used Yamaha RY8 drum machine with instruction book and mains lead. It can be powered by batteries but I have the mains adapter (which weighs more than the drum machine). I've never really understood how to program it and it is just gathering dust. It's about the size of a paperback book but the mains plug adds to the bulk. Yours for the cost of postage or collect from Carlisle (up north).

I think we (us older ones) forget just how fast the music industry is changing and how little the younger ones know of our top bands of years ago. My daughter used to run a dance school and a couple of years ago suggested, to some of the young teenage girls, that they could do a Spice Girls routine - blank looks all 'round as none of them new who the Spice Girls were! I picked up my 13 year old grandson from school last term and saw inside one of the class rooms where they were doing "Music History" - the Beatles! When one of our young (late 20s) church band drummers asked about the bass guitar I was using, I told him it was a copy of Paul McCartney's violin bass that he used in the Beatles, I could tell he had no idea what I was talking about. My wife has a music degree and plays oboe in the local orchestra. She has come across grade 8 flute players who struggle to read music. Apparently they just learn the tunes they need to pass the exams and cannot translate their reading on to new scores. With many of the "Boy Bands" (or "Girl Bands" for that matter) not playing instruments I can see why many children have no wish to learn to play any musical instrument. Of course learning music does take time and effort and the school schedule is so crowded that many education establishments simply don't cover the subject. Mrs LeftyP has just been asked to teach some pupils oboe at a local junior school. With even the basic student oboe costing over £1000 and reeds around £12 each she is not expecting a mad rush!

I think you have to remember the context that the video was made for. Don Moen is demonstrating how to play (or not to play) in a church environment when the band is not the centre of attention but is there to lead/support the congregation. This is a completely different situation to standing on stage in front of an audience to entertain them. When the band is the star of the show then "let rip" by all means but when you are playing for audience participation (as in a church service) the KISS principal (Keep It Simple, Stupid) is often the best option.

I'm slowly getting to grips with reading music but I'm far from proficient. Give me sheet music with a bass line (not for the left hand of a pianist) and I can gradually work out what to play, but I need time and space to do it. We have recently done a kid's song at church that is very bass driven. When we did it I wasn't playing in the band and there was no bass player but when I heard the song I knew it would be good for the bass guitar. I found a recording of it and sure enough, the bass drives the melody along at a brisk pace. The intro is all bass and it continues right through the song with quarter and eighth notes aplenty. I listened to the recording several times but could not work out more than the first couple of notes but then I found the sheet music with a proper bass guitar part! The first note is D below the E string and it even drops to low B - not possible on my four string bass. I am therefore learning to play the song on my four string using all the right notes but without the benefit of the B string - enter Eric Morecambe! The tune is in the key of D with F & C both sharp - except some of the Cs need to be natural! This has done wonders, not only for my music reading, but also for finding the required notes on other parts of the fret board. It's slow going at the moment and I cannot play the song at the indicated speed yet but I am getting more familiar with the notes above and below the five line stave. I'm also having to use the D and G strings more which has made me "boldly go" to parts of the neck where my fingers generally don't stray! I think learning to read and play songs that you will use rather than simple exercises might be the way to go if you find learning to read music a chore.

Thanks guys. My post was a bit tongue in cheek as I have noticed my fingers going where I want them to on the fret board. I do play in our church band but am on a rota and only step up once a month with about 30 minutes of rehearsal before the morning service. It certainly focuses the mind!

I have two weaknesses and one strength. Weakness No.1; I'm not very good at playing the bass yet. Strength; I practice a lot. Weakness No.2; I'm not getting any better!