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[quote name='blue' timestamp='1492194193' post='3278647'] Got it. I'm not sure where I stand in this issue. I'm not sure Detroit Bass Players uses click bait. I didn't notice it. Blue [/quote] I didn't really think so either. They're all far too cool to need it. I mean, they've got word of mouth going for them because it is good content for us lot.

[quote name='MisterT' timestamp='1492080443' post='3277734'] And all for free! I won the London Bass Guitar Show bundle and today's the day I go pick it all up. Nearing half a century belonging to the "I never win owt" club, I finally won summat. [url="http://www.musicradar.com/news/win-1200-bass-bundle-up-for-grabs-to-celebrate-london-bass-guitar-show"]http://www.musicrada...ass-guitar-show[/url] They want a photo - do I A) grin or pull a face? [color=#a9a9a9][size=3](this is a non-binding question I might add!)[/size][/color] [/quote] MOON

[quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1492078922' post='3277712'] I think you may be the twin brother I never knew I had! There is no excuse for this behaviour. The prep for rehearsals is done at home. [size=6]I do not want to turn up at a rehearsal I'm paying for to busk through a song that only half of us know.[/size] I really don't think it's unreasonable to expect otherwise. Sure, there are going to be moments in every song where someone has interpreted a section slightly differently and that's fine, but to arrive not knowing the start, exact structure and ending of the version you're all supposed to be working from in a room that's costing you all money is bonkers. Tell them to get a grip or you're off to find something else. [/quote] Exactly. Busking belongs on the street. Even then you may require a licence.

[quote name='thebrig' timestamp='1492076764' post='3277674'] [font=Helvetica]As the title says, am I wrong in wanting to learn the set/songs properly?[/font] [font=Helvetica]Nearly every band that I’ve been in, we decide on a setlist, or we agree to learn three or four new songs for the following week and I go away and learn them properly, but everyone else just brushes over the surface of the songs, and I end up having to tell them they are playing them wrong, which I hate doing because it obviously annoys them.[/font] [font=Helvetica]My current band is not a band that’s puts our own take on songs, we are a band that plays the songs as per the original, because being a covers band, we feel the punters prefer them that way.[/font] [font=Helvetica]I download the originals and put them in a Dropbox folder so everyone can work from the same versions, but when we get to the rehearsal room, they are all over the place with them, they seem happy to settle for mediocracy, and just say, “it’ll be alright on the night” which I hate, because I think it’s just laziness on their part, especially as they are all very good musicians.[/font] [font=Helvetica]I am an average but very steady bass player, I work hard on the songs, I make sure I know the structures perfectly, I've played with three of them for a couple of years in other bands, and although it annoys them when I pull them up in rehearsals, they are perfectly happy to rely on me to guide them through the songs when we are playing live.[/font] [font=Helvetica]To put you in the picture, my current band started in December, we decided on a setlist of thirty songs, and by the end of January I had lean’t them all, and can honestly say that I am ready to gig them, but we are now in April and collectively, we only have about fifteen that are ready, and [size=6]I’m getting more and more frustrated having to pay for rehearsals[/size] just to go over the same old songs week in, week out, just because the others aren’t bothering to put in the work.[/font] [font=Helvetica]Is it me, am I too demanding, am I being unreasonable to expect them to want to get their fingers out and learn the songs so we can get out there gigging?[/font] [font=Helvetica]Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy rehearsing, but surely rehearsals are for piecing the songs together, and I’m now at the point of making a big decision on whether I stay and probably carry on rehearsing songs I already know well for another six months or so, or do I look for a ready made band in need of a bass player who already know their set?[/font] [font=Helvetica]BTW, these guys are all really nice people, but I’m just so frustrated with the attitude. [/font] [/quote] Surely you aren't paying the fees by yourself? If you are, that's something you could change to make it worth their while to turn up with the goods before hiring rooms. I always ask how much the rooms cost after an audition with a band that is compatible. Unless I'm being taken for a mug I offer to chip in in a small way to show willing. I would never expect a free share in rehearsal room fees as a band member. It's just wrong.

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1492161995' post='3278344'] Just listen to any of Adam Clayton's lines. He pretty much channels J.S. Bach. [/quote] Harharharharharhar. Now I have to wipe the splutter debris off my screen. I hope your satisfied with yourself! Happy Easter.

[quote name='Yank' timestamp='1492165706' post='3278387'] I mated with the fretless as soon as I picked it up and put down the fretted, never looked back. I love your fretless! [/quote] Er...

[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1492170129' post='3278442'] This comes close to perfection for me. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWhMyOs0pCQ[/media] [/quote] Some beautiful vocal harmonies on that album. Love's in Need of Love Today is [i]seriously[/i] spiritual.

I have to say that I don't believe in the concept of perfection. That's my excuse for putting Tenacious D up (above). I do however have many songs that I like a LOT. Trouble is I sometimes play them to the point of boredom. Then it's time to move on. Mood is such a factor in my enjoyment that asking me what I think of as perfect is like asking someone to nail a jelly to a jack-in-the-box.

Do a search on this forum for OBBM. He might be able to offer advice if not actually point you at a supplier.

[quote name='ead' timestamp='1492161186' post='3278338'] Check JB's fretless playing at the Cream reunion gigs at the Albert Hall. Very tasteful, I partiuclarly like the lines he's playing on Stormy Monday. [/quote] Thanks. The "great" mwah is over-rated. A lot of bassist forum chatter suggests that it is the holy grail for bassists. Rubbish! The mwah is unique to the fretless but it is more of a characteristic than a desirable quality. If all you get from a tune's bassline is mwah it gets boring to the point of annoyance I think. Jack is far better than Jaco for my taste. I still like Jaco though for his work with Joni and for some of the Weather Report repertoire.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1492159647' post='3278318'] What is click bait? Blue [/quote] It's a means of attracting interest from people browsing the internet by using enticing and sometimes wholly inappropriate words in a hypertext link just to get "cash for clicks" or search engine ratings. "Clickbait is a pejorative term describing web content that is aimed at generating online advertising revenue, especially at the expense of quality or accuracy, relying on sensationalist headlines to attract click-throughs and to encourage forwarding of the material over online social networks." From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I mentioned it because of this recent topic; http://basschat.co.uk/topic/303710-respected-players-using-clickbait-on-youtube/ On reflection it wasn't all that witty, sorry.

Why does the BBC not keep its promise of delivering 5.1 surround? I only ever get the pro-logic logo on my receiver, never Dolby D or DTS. My understanding from the BBC's own HD TV promo was that they took great lengths to record in surround format. Pro-logic M sounds like surround but it isn't actually 6 channels... or is it? Curious.

Has the show been vetted for click bait yet though... Heeheehee.

Yup. That is one mint bassment. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mint mint - Expression used in The North Of England meaning good "Ah, thats well mint!"

[quote name='MisterT' timestamp='1492079768' post='3277728'] I too think the 'clickbait' thing isn't clickbait (and I guess the OP covers that by using quotes). When bulk email goes out, clever companies run AB testing on subject lines to see which ones are the most opened. Scott's SEO bod is just writing subject lines with a hook. [/quote] Not sure now whether I've woken up in an angling or an I.T. forum. Shouldn't have had that last wine gum.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lK4cX5xGiQ[/media]

[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1492090207' post='3277866'] Has anyone else taken this long, or longer to get into a bass or a technique? <snip> I think 5 string could be another long journey for me too. [/quote] I took much longer to feel happy with my fretless. I bought it with roundwound strings brand new. I now wonder if that was an error on the part of the shop. That was Dublin in 1986 or 7! Last year I decided that I'd restring it with flats as the roundwounds had chewed the black finish off the fingerboard in places. I put black nylon Rotosounds with gold tails on and wished I'd done it sooner. I am going to give it a go on one of the open mic nights this year, such is my confidence with it. It plays like it should now but I didn't cotton on to how different it would feel for 30 years!!! I thought, like you say, that going from four to five on fretted bass would be difficult but it isn't really that bad. I think I took a month or so to feel at home with the low B. It's a bit like getting a slightly larger desk, more room to work with yet everything within reach. I have said in the past that I'd like a fiver fretless too but I am not so sure now. The Vantage sounds good as it is with its J and P style pups. Maybe one day. It's a damned good thing that I don't depend on my playing for a living innit.

[quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1492079574' post='3277720'] Looks better to most folks who aren't in the extreme echelons of knowledge [/quote] Good on you! With a slight edit to your quote thus - "Fender... Looks better to most folks who aren't in the extreme echelons of knowledge" - may I suggest you run that right up the Fender marketing flag pole and see how many salutes it gets. Hahahahahahaha. My lower echelon is itchy now [scratches arse]

[quote name='Bassmonkey' timestamp='1492032667' post='3277427'] As a result of this I have been on a You Tube trip remembering all those great Sweet songs. Happy days [/quote] Plus one. Glam rock may be cheesy but maturity has made it a fine comestible. Best taken in good company with crackers and a light drink.

[quote name='owen' timestamp='1492029233' post='3277380'] I am playing the St Matthew Passion on Friday. I have not done this kind of stuff for a VERY long time. I will be very tired on Saturday. Cracking bass lines though. He was The Don. [/quote] Have a great gig my friend.

Many thanks D. I've got summat much better than BBC News24 to watch over breakfast now. Regards

[quote name='MisterT' timestamp='1492034797' post='3277457'] (ref the Partridge bit - that's Music for Chameleons by Gary Numan) The Numan fans all remember Pino very well indeed, he recorded in 1982 with Gary before he did the Paul Young stuff so we were all indoctrinated with that special style of his. It's been great seeing him go as far as he has. Nevermind all that... MICK! [/quote] Good call. Japan was an evocative band.

[quote name='Rich' timestamp='1492037468' post='3277479'] Ah, 80s synths... love em. Back in '87 my band had two keys players, between them they had a DX7, JX3P, Juno 106 and a PX7 piano. And yes, I played fretless through a chorus on some songs Though I say so myself, we were AWESOME *wistful sigh* [/quote] Aw bless. We thought the same about ourselves. Unfortunately, I have some four track cassettes that prove how naff we really were. The true talent in our band was the drummer because he played all of the instruments that his older brothers had learned on too. He chose drums because the others hadn't and to top it off, he sang at the same time. I thank him for bringing me back into the music thing having been put off it by school and those horrible Bert Weedon books. The eighties were awesome in themselves. Electronic instruments went mainstream in a big way and shook the whole industry out of its rut. I was lucky to be in my twenties at the time even taking into consideration the threat of global nuclear war that was always in the news back then. That the fretless bass came to the fore was remarkable in the circumstances. Maybe it softened the edges a bit against the sometimes harsh sounds of MIDI driven modules. On the other hand MIDI allowed Stock Aitken Waterman to establish a minor monopoly in the charts for a while. Heeheehee.

[quote name='the boy' timestamp='1492060854' post='3277509'] I can never understand why people don't get it. For me it very obvious why people decorate their basses in this fashion. This is show business. It's all about creating an image, a look or a vibe. We don't criticise folk for sporting a hairdo or guyliner. Putting a decal on the headstock is exactly the same. It's the finishing touch to an impression you are creating. I'm fine with it. It's none of my business. I played a few gigs with a band a few years ago and they wanted a look. I reliced an old Squier and put a fender decal on. It looked awesome and was exactly the vibe the band wanted. It's no big deal. Other people can't afford fenders but gain confidence when they sport a fenderesque instrument. Live and let livery I say. [/quote] Hahahahahahahah - "Live and let livery" very good my friend. I don't get why folk who don't get why other folk don't get it say they don't get why folk don't get it. Excuse me while I sit for a moment, I've got dizzy for some reason.

[quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1492029540' post='3277385'] Not just cars. Everything gets cloned these days - £50 Chinese snide "Rolex" anyone? Nothing new in music, either. My first fiddle, a European factory cheapo, had a fake Strad label in it. [/quote] True. The perverse thing about second hand goods sales is that the fakes can sometimes command a higher price than an equivalent "unknown" brand just [i]because[/i] they are fakes even though they are known to be dodgy copies by the purchaser and advertised as such. It tends to happen with older goods and antiques. Did you keep your Strad clone?