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I always aspired to own a Stingray after I first heard one/had sight of one. Now I own a few, at least, at once. If you want a Stingray, don't compromise. Buy a Stingray. No other bass/preamp/pickup has that raspy, bizarre and interesting tone. Virtually all of the preamp/pickup boutique copies sound somehow sterile to me. All of the HH/HS/H basses and either 2 EQ or 3 EQ will get you that tone. 2EQ vs 3EQ is slightly different, but not by much.

[quote name='Weststarx' timestamp='1399897323' post='2448704'] Ah... now I feel for you... More interested in image than music IMO... The guitarist are very technical and often play harmonics with each other - which might be why he's having trouble learning any of their songs. The bass lines are extremely dull and is just root notes, and the singer make me question my sexuality as I'm not sure whether he/she's a girl with a deep voice or a man dressed like a girl. [/quote] Awful band. This is why metal/hard rock gets such a bad name. As a few people have said to me, its almost like there isn't a big surge of bands at the moment, like we are waiting on a dip for the next big thing/ground breaking band. Nothing seems to be very exciting.

Some bass is easier. Some isn't. Learning a few Beatles songs on guitar - not so difficult. Depending on which ones! Some are two chords...whereas the bass is jumping around. The other thing that bass doesn't have as often as guitar is tube driven/overdrive tones. Yes, a lot of bassists use it, but a guitarist can cover up a LOT by using distortion or even just cranking for a hair of gain. Really high gain stuff in drop D is incredibly easy to play. Metal? Difficult? Yes, some of it definitely is difficult on bass. Some of it isn't. Emo? Emo is technically a genre born from the undergound hardcore/punk scene, when the ex members of the 80s hardcore bands wanted to do something new. It was labelled as 'emotional hardcore' because it was basically noisy/more punk version of what we call indie. Check out bands like Texas Is the Reason, Cap N Jazz, Appleseed Cast, Cross My Heart, etc. Modern 'emo' is just a term for poor over produced bad rock with kids with black side partings/whinging teenagers. As usual, the music scene ruined a fantastic genre by watering it down to awful second rate pop rock. Good 'emo' is often very loud, very melodic, often with odd time signatures, clean to loud parts, odd rhythms, etc.

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1399883431' post='2448494'] Yep - I think you'll be pushed to find any Class D that doesn't have some sort of limiting circuit in place to 'simulate' a louder amp. [/quote] Aye I agree, but I think all of the modern amps, in fact all amps (?), have limiting circuits of some sort. I'm not an expert, but I know the limiter on the class A/B Markbass LM3 was pretty harsh...clamped down when the master volume was just over 12 o'clock, (more so at 8 ohms). Limiting circuits have come a long way, more so in the modern lightweight amps. You then have something like the TC amps, which is going in a completely different direction. I imagine the magic of the WA is a sum of all the well designed parts of the amps getting that 'right' tone at a pretty decent volume, in a small package. As one of the ex Genz guys is now working for Mesa, who knows what we might get!

I'd just buy a CV Squier and be done. Modern manufacturing, decent price, change the pups, boom.

The pre amp and overall design/limiting will have a much larger impact on tone and volume over the difference between two similarly rated, but different class, power amp sections.

[quote name='tom1946' timestamp='1399871139' post='2448426'] Sorry but am I alone in thinking that modern fenders are for the most part excellent? Modern electronics and manufacturing technologies are surely better than then? Having tried both I think so. [/quote] Yes, absolutely.

Those new Carvin amps look great!

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1399784821' post='2447553'] jgmh, you need to learn how to properly quote other people's posts in your own, because I can'[t quote you quoting me to respond to your point. Anyhow, I think the black album was Metallica's finest hour, but I am not a dedicated fan of the band, as you may have already guessed. There were some really imaginative and well-crafted songs on that album , and, most importantly, it was accessible. By contrast, the rest of their catalog is, by-and-large, pretty stolid and impenetrable to most casual listeners. That black album heralded a new era in that genre of music , coming out as it did at the very time when metal was looking for a new direction after all those monstrous hair metal bands. That was Metallica's finest hour, and they have been trading on the success of that record ever since. I am sure liking heavy metal doesn't make you socially retarded in itself, but Metallica do seem to appeal to a disproportionately large number of electronic engineering students who wear their keys on a fob attached to their belt loops, I grew up liking heavy rock music, and I am indeed severely socially retarded as a direct result. If you give a twelve year old boy a Judas Priest album and a bottle of cider and leave him to get on with it you are unlikely to get a good long- term outcome. I am living proof of that social experiment. That is why I am on my own , up at five am typing bollocks about Metallica when I don't even like them . If I had listened to something a bit more mainstream when I was younger then I might have been on an exotic holiday with Martine McCutcheon right now, or something along those lines [/quote] These posts are brilliant!

I have the TH pedal and if you want some sparkle, the TH tends to smooth it out. That's the TH tone carried into the TH 500. I would personally try a different amp if you want a lot more detail in the highs.

I tried an early Compact and yes, I'd need a tweeter or mid driver for some more clarity. Even though I have an Orange OBC115 which seemed to have more bite than the Compact. I wanted it as a one cab solution for certain gigs. I realise times have moved on and I am genuinely interested to know what the BB2 sounds like. All previous expectations are now in the past so is start fresh. As long as there is enough bite and the build is better the BB2 might be a good cab for me.

Never understood the JV prices. Crackers.

Dingus you are on a roll today!

[quote name='drTStingray' timestamp='1399645077' post='2446260'] I'm afraid I've succumbed to the GAS and am sorting out a Classic Sabre in this configuration as we speak!! Blue burst is one of my favourite colours. A mahogany bodied Sabre with a gunstock oil and wax finished figured roasted maple neck sounds fabulous to me. The single H Bongo is also rather appealing. [/quote] Nice! I'd love to try a Sabre. Can you PM me or put on thread what the 'upcharge' is for the fact its a PDN bass? Cheers

It always end up being offended owners vs those who aren't so taken with the cabs.

[quote name='Old Horse Murphy' timestamp='1399640053' post='2446172'] ANy idea on UK availability and price? I think I'm in love [/quote] You can order through most stores, as long as its before the window shuts (think its early June). I'm checking with Promenade Music at the mo.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1399635598' post='2446097'] yep... and the amps and cabs section updates can be dominated with their NCD etc threads and posts. [/quote] +1

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1399634423' post='2446082'] On the hard shoulder? Barefaced threads always seem to polarise opinion on this forum for some reason - I'm really not sure why - jealousy, perhaps? If you don't like the idea of Barefaced cabs and don't agree with Alex's philosophy, then [i]don't buy one[/i]. Simples. I'm sure Alex won't be bothered in the least - he's too busy trying to keep up with demand. [/quote] It definitely polarises opinion. Some do get very passionate one way or the other!

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1399631425' post='2446016'] A modular, 4 ohm, 6x10 - costing £1200?! Not sure that's a particularly big section of the market... [/quote] No, very doubtful, I agree, but using the same speakers and not having to change specs makes business sense to me.

[quote name='bluejay' timestamp='1399625473' post='2445909'] always saw Glasto as an indie/lightweight/totally uninteresting festival (the opposite of Donington in its heyday), so this news is now upsetting all my prejudices! I guess I better concentrate on Megadeth, then [/quote] After a fair few festivals (not as many as I'd like) I can honestly say the party is definitely at Glastonbury...whereas the metal festivals tend to be quite cliche and a bit 'rough and ready'.

I understand it may mean that your amp isn't running so 'hot', I just don't see why getting less from your amp would mean it is definitely louder than most 8 ohm 2x10s... I'm guessing three of these would mean a 4 ohm load? Hence the same speakers as the 6x10? So, in a way, its just another way to make a cab without having a different spec speaker? (Makes business sense I guess, for money purposes).

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1399628708' post='2445961'] Looking at it from a different view, if you were to use 2 12Ω cabs, you're not running a 4Ω amp to it's minimum load, therefor not putting such a strain on the components. [/quote] That's not really what the amp was built for though, is it? Not running your amp at full tilt thus not straining it isn't something that would attract me into a sale.

I never really 'got' the Bongo until I saw some decent hi res pictures of it from different angles. I then realised they looked very sleek and quite cool in a way. From a playing point of view, the ergonomics are just superb. I am tempted for a simple 4 H model....as they are quite rare anyway!

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