Musicman20

I think bad deals should always be posted. Otherwise this community loses what makes it work so well; trust.

Hi Dan! Welcome back.

My SR just had an outing, straight into a small PA for acoustic - type band practice. It sounded great!!!

Yeah they bought it for other people! Takes the mick. They will get found out.

I didn't but I've got a load of gear anyway. They are buying bits for other bands! I don't agree with that at all. Good side: joined a professional acoustic type (with drums) cover band. Great first practice!

The 800 versions have a different voicing and aren't as pleasing, IMO, as the normal 500w versions. The 800s have LOTS of bass and hi mid/treble when flat for some reason.

Total rubbish. Sorry to be negative. The band had not progressed and had acquired a very annoying and arrogant 2nd guitarist who couldnt play bass or guitar. Three gigs got cancelled, spent too much money due to poor pay, so I left. My advice, don't believe what most bands say!

I'd buy an earlier Skyline used. I really don't think the recent models are as top notch as they used to be. Quirks as in bad paint, horrendous weight, misaligned pickups (really obviously mis aligned) and a few other issues. No doubt they have very good examples somewhere, but I've tried to buy 3-4 times and gave up. Thing is, they are supposed to be better QC wise compared to Fender! Not sure nowadays.

Tech 21 replied very quickly to my email. Great service! I'll wait for V2 before ordering. Here is the response: Thanks for your inquiry. The speaker simulation mostly eliminates the "fizz" you get from high-gain settings of a tube amp (which the VT will emulates). When recording or playing through a PA system, instead of the "flat", lifeless tone of just a preamp, it offers a more natural mic'd cabinet tone. I should say that it seems that guitar players are a bit more fanatical about not adding our speaker emulation (which merely adds the "focused", studio quality tone of a multiply-mic'ed cabinet) to their guitar speakers (which they may have spent a good amount of time choosing according to personal preference), before even hearing it. But we've never heard from bass players who decided they couldn't possibly use our products because the speaker emulation wasn't defeatable. There probably aren't that many different models of bass speakers to begin with, anyway. But at least the switch offers the option of using it or not. Either way, you've still got the active EQ to help you arrive at your tone.

All the Laklands I tried in their Newcastle store had quirks that I havent seen on the earlier models. I think personally the magic of Lakland has faded a little, and they are quite expensive.

I am finally breaking down to the awesome tone this pedal produces. I doubt id use the Deluxe version as much as the cost would justify, although I would like it! The standard VT is now in V2 and has a speaker sim defeat... Anyone seen these yet? Apparently they are shipping now.

I was using one of the lower non tube amps a few weeks back for touring gigs, and it was AWFUL. The guitarists dont understand quality DIs for bass, thinking rigs mean everything to a band, but I would have gone fully DI through the THammer or Sansamp in a second if they werent whinging.

Beautiful! Save the guard though and wrap it lots of bubblewrap (or something!)

Price is always something you have to consider. Whether you earn a very high salary or minimum wage, why pay over the odds? I'm not at all bothered about paying for something great, it's when (and this applies to many things, like the new Fender prices) those prices are vastly inflated and you lose a huge chunk when you sell on. Even when I go further up in my career, I'll always be careful with pricing.

Ah nice! If the pickup was a little better I'd definitely consider getting one.

I wasnt attacking begantino. I have no reason to. Yes, very well engineered. Other factors annoy me but it gets too in depth and shows how I research the pricing of the market between brands in the USA, (eg most high end cabs similar prices) and Europe (some cabs stay at a high yet acceptable price, some sky rocket for no apparent reason).

Hate speaker / cab related threads when they turn like this. I get the impression of 'guarding MY gear' and not allowing anything else to be said. I'm not stupid, I wasn't even aiming the '4 speakers in a box' at any manufacturer directly. It has been assumed by those defending said Berg cabs that I was attacking their purchase. Please be friendly, non-dismissive and considerate to other forum members. I do not have the time to read every spec and delve into speaker design, but I'm pretty sure it would not be beyond my capability, so please avoid patronising comments. Otherwise, it makes this place unfriendly. If you want to 'argue' with me, do it correctly or not at all.

I'd love to own a few more if the DB cabs...maybe a 1x12 and a 4x10.

Hey, I'm not actually complaining. I'm just discussing my opinion. This is allowed. Please dont dismiss other views just because you might not agree. Some of us don't just fall for hype, we ask why! No one should pay a premium just because its a high end product. Look at the USA prices between two or three cab makers, then look at it here in the UK. Disproportionate differences. One or two have a massive difference when in the USA they are virtually the same price. I'm not aiming this at any manufacturer, I've seen it quite few times. Certain cabs are overpriced in this country when you compare it to the USA, and what I mean by this is the fact other high end gear doesnt have the vast difference once they get to the UK.

[quote name='stevie' post='1192099' date='Apr 7 2011, 06:30 PM']Top quality drivers are expensive. If you want a really high-end 10", you will pay at least £100 each at retail prices. I can see how a price of £1,000 is possible.[/quote] Possible, agreed, but insane. For what is effectively 4 high end speakers and a few other bits in a box!

Some neo cabs are just getting to silly prices, IMO. I can understand a quality cabinet, and the reasons behind high end amps, but at £1000+ for a 4x10, id rather put into an instrument.

Its probably been seen but my immaculate and tech checked SR is now for sale. I had 2 before this and eventually got a very good example after a few couriers back and forth.

That is a bargain! Especially the amp!