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Is there really any point in going over and over this anyway? I like a flat EQ

New Zealand is a great place for reggae music http://youtu.be/2fOFWRqy98k

[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1396009758' post='2408954'] I agree entirely to be fair. I use coated stainless steel strings so that my bass tone stays obnoxious and offensive for months and months [/quote] I tried Elixir strings on my bass and was disappointed. I found them to be greasy to the touch and not as bright as I would have liked. The guitar strings are a totally different beast. They sound awesome and last for ages. I like the thought of coated strings, but aint found any that sound as good as Rotosound stainless , so will have to keep experimenting

Yes I understand that, but what I am saying, and I think the op is, is that amp A, say an Ampeg, will get a different sound with flat eq than it will with scooped mids. Amp B, the Hartke, will also, whilst giving a different original sound, have a different sound with flat EQ and with scooped mids. No one is saying a flat EQ will give you the same sound through the board no matter what amp you are using. Any amp will cut through the mix better with an EQ set to a flat setting or even with pushed mids. The traditional happy face setting is great on its own, but try that in a loud band situation and you will get mud out front

Ok, I take on board what you are saying but the op was about flat EQ which is a different term to flat signal. We all know what someone means when they sat flat EQ, so I can't for the life of me understand what all the fuss is about. I think maybe we should look to my profile pic to put this in perspective

Yes, but what we are saying is you set your BASS amp EQ as flat and that gives you more pronounced mids and therefore a better sound for being heard in the mix. I used your sound engineer as an example. I see what you are saying that your amp will colour your sound as soon as its plugged in, but you can alter that sound by setting your EQ to flat which I do. It gives me a much better sound than I used to have years ago when I had a scooped mids EQ

[quote name='skychaserhigh' timestamp='1395997626' post='2408709'] I'm not the one being picky ! I'm saying your bass isn't flat plugged in. I turn the knobs until I get the sound I like and that works. Imagine if sound engineers didn't use eq at live gigs or on recordings. [/quote] Yeah but that same sound engineer could slide all his sliders to the centre detent and that is a flat eq. I.E. no bias on bass or treble. I can't see what we are disagreeing about

[quote name='dincz' timestamp='1395997341' post='2408705'] Doesn't sound anything like a viola! [/quote] Aaargh! caught out

[quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1395999175' post='2408747'] nothing. [/quote] You freak of nature you!

Have yous heard Salmonella dub? Another New Zealand band who are bloody marvellous! http://youtu.be/LvrK0qj_P84 NICE!

I love this band. I downloaded this album a while back and its just so chilled ....great stuff man

[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1395963360' post='2408567'] Steve Harris uses flats, they can sound great as long as they're fresh! [/quote] Thats the thing mate, they have to be fresh to get anything other than a dull bassy tone. I appreciate that flats are good for some kinds of music. I think folk are not really getting the irony I had when I typed my statement. I apologise if I have annoyed anyone who loves flats. I just love rounds....stainless steel rounds

Surely the type of music you play must influence what type of bass or guitar you use as well. I mean if you are playing in a country band, its usually gonna be a P or a J in't it? Same with heavy metal bands. They tend to use Spectors or Ibanez or the likes. Its just a thought but I reckon style of music influences style of guitar to a certain extent. I know I am just asking for loads of examples proving me wrong, but its my opinion

[quote name='skychaserhigh' timestamp='1395997062' post='2408699'] Because as soon as you plug it into something It's affected by circuitry , speakers etc etc so It's no longer flat. [/quote] Sorry mate, but are you not being a bit picky here

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1395993735' post='2408652'] Just nudge up the volume or gain on your amp a smidge when you switch from the P to the J [/quote] This has to be the easiest way to sort it. I can't really see that you have a problem. I have lots of basses that have different outputs and I just make a mental note of where to land my master volume control on my amp. I always have the guitar volume right up to get the pups working at their best

Yeah, your amps and cabs will only give out a certain amount of sound, which is localised. By mic'ing up your cabs and putting it through the PA, you are getting a sound that you can balance to give an overall sound from your band. Small venues are ok for just back line with maybe vocals through the PA, but for larger venues , you will definitely be looking at mic'ing up or DI'ing

I say leave flats to the decrepit old sods who like a dull lifeless sound. Go for rounds all the time man, 'spechilly if ya want a killer sound! Seriously , I know this will bring out a whole load of disagreements from dudes who love flats. I have tried and I have always gone back to rounds. I just love that zingy twang from new rounds. I know its my opinion and I apologise if I offend any lovers of sh*tty, dull tones

[quote name='gub' timestamp='1395943821' post='2408294'] Yes, be careful if you raise the height of your pickups, I did this once and seemed fine at home noodling, but when I played a gig the strings were hitting the pickups at times, and there was defiantly some weird sonic stuff going on! [/quote] defiantly? Those pick ups have attitude!

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1395912759' post='2407784'] Loads of waffle here as usual. Flat - all the controls set at their neutral point. Transparent or natural - an amplifier and speaker setup that changes nothing of the tone of the original source. All amps can be set flat. If you set it flat it is flat. Very few bass amps and cabs are transparent by their very nature. Let's at least agree the terminology. [/quote] Yes! Thank you for being sensible....all amps even those with no EQ have bass mid and treble. Set these at the mid point and voila! A flat setting

If you turn down the treble pup, you will get the bass pup performing better and vice versa. When both are turned up full the signal gets split and they are not so loud

[quote name='MoonBassAlpha' timestamp='1395924010' post='2407946'] I like going to jazz gigs as you are nearly always within a few feet of the players - no large screens required! [/quote] You like going to Jazz gigs? http://youtu.be/NdWJpHt1Xws

I can see that joining this forum was a mistake. I have always suffered from bad gas and you buggers are making it worser. I have recently bought a Sandberg California TM heavy relic and just a few weeks later was overcome with the NEED to buy a Spector Euro 4LX . Trouble is now Im gassing for a GK amp and have always wanted a Spector NS 2 ....Will it ever end?

Ha ha, I suppose its both mate