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If you are in East Bristol next Saturday 11th come and see Black Dog Company play a mix of origionals and covers at the Portcullis Staple Hill. Be good to see you.

One of my favourite bass lines ever. The ox at his best.

What is a cheap bass? Most of the basses listed here seem to be bargains rather than cheaply made. My yamaha bb1100s wouldn't sell for much more than £250 now but will happily keep up with basses over a grand. No one is mentioning the old jap crap eg kay antoria etc which has a certain charm. I had an antoria sg bass for a bit and it had a cool tone I just couldn't get on with the short scale neck.

I recently picked up a Tobias Growler from here (this one -http://basschat.co.uk/topic/245036-nbd-tobias-growler/page__pid__2555539#entry2555539). I knew when I bought it that the pu had been changed for a seymour duncan quarter pounder mm style instead of the origional bartolini quad coil but this has meant that one of the tone circuits and boost switches has been disconnected from the pre amp. In looking to bring it back to its full functionality I have just bought a bart quad coil pu from ebay but have 3 questions before I take it to be fitted. 1. Has anyone compared these 2 PUs to give advice one tone differences 2. Has anyone got a wiring diagram for a growler? Ive googled it with little success and other people seem to have had no luck from gibson or bartolini. 3. Mine only has 1 9v battery rather than 2 so Im not sure if the preamp has been changed too or whether that is a result of the pu change. Hopefully the a wiring diagram will help with that. Sorry for the long post and thanks for any help. Steve

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonmayo/posts/All-about-the-bass Could be interesting.

Ballroom blitz. Did a dep for our drummers orher band and they do it. Great song to play and goes down a storm.

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Buy one or other 2nd hand and give it a proper go, if you dont like it you should be able to move it on without losing much money amd try something else. You never get the the right sound in a shop trying them out.

Nice pun. But thats what I'm trying to gather. Are they poles apart in terms of tone considering as I understand both have a tube pre (although more tubes in the orange) and class d power amp. As I say never tried a genz but curious about them.

Ok got it turn the volume low! The main thing I wanted to know from this is how a shuttle compares to an obt. As said I like the sound of the obt but have heard good things about shuttle/streamliners and like the idea of smaller size and additional features like aux in etc. Ta

Good idea hadn't thought of that. Thanks

It does yes and I do do that. I think I phrased the question badly at first. Essentially I have gas for a genz head and want to know how they compare to an obt. I've heard good things about them but have never played one. The other point is that its probably not volume thats my problem its the low end that comes out of the obt and bf compact even at low vols that I get moaned about from my family (especially with kids in bed). I get fed up with headphone practice so I think a small practice amp will do for that amd a quick look on gumtree has found a few bargains locally. Cheers for the comments so far.

How can you look a pathetic old b*****d with that. Great looking bass and way better than looking boring with a fender!

Thanks I may well get a small combo but I also have irational gas for genz amps too so curios as to how they compare to the obt.

I use mine regulally for home headphone practice. Its great but can overdive easily especially with an active bass.

I use mine regulally for home headphone practice. Its great but can overdive easily especially with an active bass.

Also possibly thinking of a tc bh250 bit put off by only 1 speaker out.

I've got a 500 watt obt which I love the sound of and play through a barefaced compact. For most gigs (mostly pubs) I've barely pushed it above 3 on the master vol. My problem is for home use it is too loud so I'm getting tempted by a Genz shuttle 6.0 or 6.2 due the lower wattage at 8 ohm and the practice amp friendly features of headphone out and aux in and still having the tube pre. I've heard good things but have never tried one. Has anyone tried the obt next to the Genz and what are your thoughts? Other thought is a cheap practice amp. Cheers steve

From the brief play ive had its a bit like an agressive stingray but half the weight and more versetile. Pu is coil tappable and has a boost switch as well as the eq. This one has had the bartolini quad coil replaced with a seymour duncan quarter pounder so may not sound like all growlers but its ace.

Received this lovely Tobias Growler today, arrived safely in the post from Spain from JuliusMonk of this parish (pleasure to deal with)! Lovely bass to replace my Stingray and I'd wanted a 4 string Tobias as I had to use my sons name as an excuse to let off a bit of GAS! Plays great, weighs nothing and sounds like a monster, just like my son (except the weight!). I just need to get my head around the switches.

Bought a Tobias Growler from Carlos. Excellent communications, quick dispatch, all as described (actually better condition than described), well packaged and arrived safely from Spain to Bristol. I'd happily deal with Carlos again, deal in confidence. Top bloke. All the best Steve

Part 2 of the saga is that my strings arrived yesterday, so ive got to play it and passive it sounds great but the active circuit doesnt work. The tone controls are loose so that may have something to do with it but all the wires look intact and the light comes on when you flick the active/passive switch. I've tried turning the plastic screw in the metal box to no avail. Is there anything else to check? Cheers