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[quote name='Fat Rich' timestamp='1332417888' post='1587935'] Fair enough although that's not been my experience, although I agree neck stiffness is a factor. Had a listen to the tracks you did for Hoochie Fig and your 33" sounds great, very nice playing too! [/quote] Wow! Thanks mate Very kind of you to say. Cheers, Eude

I'm not sure the scale length is the only way to achieve a good low B, both my current basses and have 33" scale length and the low B on both is fantastic, in fact it wipes the floor with other low B's I've tried on basses I won't name here, ranging from 34" to 36" in scale length. The additional length of course plays a part, and is obviously the [i]easy[/i] way to get a good low B, but a super stiff stable neck and body construction, plus some additional luthier voodoo can get you there too. Eude

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1332414776' post='1587872'] How about one of these? [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/166546-fsft-fender-roscoe-beck-v/page__p__1541570__hl__roscoe%20beck__fromsearch__1#entry1541570"]http://basschat.co.u..._1#entry1541570[/url] [/quote] Hot damn, these are meant to be very good basses...

[quote name='LiamPodmore' timestamp='1332413393' post='1587847'] My personal choice in that kind of price range would probably be a Stingray 5, or possibly a Sadowsky. Liam [/quote] Oh yeah, a Sadowsky maybe as well, they have no problem shifting secondhand either. (I'd still go for an ACG though... )

[quote name='Walker' timestamp='1332412996' post='1587834'] Thank you gents. To be honest, I feel I’m not ready for a custom build just yet – I need a few more years under my belt. Maybe for my 50[sup]th[/sup]. I think a fairly easily re-sellable bass that will hold its value will be a better bet for me as it’s going to be my first five string and who knows – lots of folk don’t get on with them. That’s not a defeatist attitude – I’m just trying to be realistic! [/quote] That's fair enough then mate. I'd certainly have a look at Stingray 5ers then, you can probably pickup a nice used one on here and sell on easily enough. I think if you did get hold of a Dingwall, you'd be in the same boat as a custom if it came to selling it on, they have very little mass appeal as the whole concept hasn't quite stuck yet, probably worth considering. If you like your more trad basses, I tried an American Standard Fender P 5 string a while back and it wasn't bad at all, the B's on Fenders 5 strings get fairly mixed reviews, but the good ones are apparently very good. Good luck! Eude

From what I've heard, the low B on Musicman Stingrays is incredible for a 34" bass, but if I was you mate, I'd go for a UK based custom build if you're looking at that kind of money. A few builders in the UK have done and probably still would do fanned fret builds, and if you're going custom, you could tweak the scale(s) to how you want them if you find the regular Dingwall 37" reach a bit much. ACG would get my vote, they're are making a fanned fret 6er right now which is 36" to 33" >> [url="http://www.acguitars.co.uk/Gallery/254/"]http://www.acguitars.co.uk/Gallery/254/[/url] (other scale lengths are available... ) Cheers, Eude

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1332353390' post='1587228'] I think at this price, they have just taken a huge chunk of the market...its almost a 1/3 less than similar combos from MB/GB, and its cheaper than the Promethean! [url="http://www.dv247.com/guitars/tc-electronic-bg250-bass-guitar-amp-combo--96671"]http://www.dv247.com...mp-combo--96671[/url] [/quote] Hey Gareth, I'm not sure they'll sell a lot of these. Even now TC are a bit of an unknown, and dare I say it "geeky" brand to the majority of bassists who are likely in the market for an amp like this at this price point, of course there will be some folks like yourself who know their sh*t and are looking for a backup/practice combo, but in my opinion, folks spending that kind of money, in the majority, are looking to make their 2nd amp purchase, post practice amp and the words "bigger" and "louder" would certainly come into play. I'm not sure it's fair to compare this with the Promethean either, especially if you mean the 1x10 combo. On paper, that combo wipes the floor with this, it's smaller, lighter, more versatile, has a removable 500W amp head, speaker out when in combo mode and the finish and build quality is up there with the TC high end stuff. The Promethean punches well above its weight and is considered, at least by some, to be "pro" level equipment. There have been some QC issues, but there's been plenty of that with TC's bass gear too from what I've heard. I'd stick my neck out on this one and bet that the little Promethan sounds a lot better and is a lot more practical in the real world. If you're comparing it with the newer lower end Promethean 1x15, then fair enough, they're the same price, the TC might edge it with it's built in single effect thing and it's mysterious invisible tuner. The Tone Print thing, in my opinion is a gimmick, and using one effect at a time then having to overwrite to try another one would probably get a little frustrating in use, I may have misinterpreted how that works of course. That Octaver does sound good though, I'll keep an eye out for a pedal version of that. I also think the combo is pretty ugly, I guess that's a personal thing. I'm just a little perturbed, as I think, yet again, TC are missing a trick here. If they made a pro level lightweight powerful combo, based around their RS112 cab and high end heads, but with the ability to tilt it back, with all the aux in - headphone out and a speaker out stuff, I think they would sell a hell of a lot of them, I for one would be very interested... </my other 2p> Eude

The real question is why is it so freakin' ugly?! ...and, why not make it a 12" cab with a wedge style - kick back shape? Surely that would be a lot more useful and a bit more interesting! I do get the impression that TC don't really listen to bass players, I've got about 5 unanswered emails to them suggesting new products. </2p> Eude

I know, I have serious GAS for 2 of those 1x12s and Streamliner 600 head...

If I remember correctly most of the high end Sadowskys are chambered too, you don't hear folks complaining about their tone very often I personally would just go for a lighter wood, as it would be a lot cheaper, leaving cash for black jack and other important things... Eude

Plus, it's technically an "Allparts Fender-Licensed" neck, so it may have even shipped with the decal on it for all we know...

[quote name='Rumple' timestamp='1332180551' post='1584431'] Oops I stand corrected I never was any good with names He kindly got me some Ultalites for a very good price to, top man. [/quote] Aye, he's a good man! I took the liberty of asking the weight of the new J Type, apparently this one >> [url="http://www.acguitars.co.uk/Available/22/"]http://www.acguitars.co.uk/Available/22/[/url] comes in at 8.25 lbs with the Gotoh tuners, so with Hipshots it'd be a cool 8 lbs on the nose Eude

[quote name='Rumple' timestamp='1332179112' post='1584405'] That is rather tastey I did see some of Andy's work at the London Bass Show a couple of weeks ago, quite stunning. I have a fretless being made for me (not an ACG) that's having one of his filter based eq's in it, looking forward to seeing how it sounds. [/quote] It's [b]Alan[/b] at ACG by the way I've been watching your fretless build, it's looking great! Eude

[quote name='Rumple' timestamp='1332177592' post='1584379'] I'm quite into the custom build thing so will go down that route again as it means I get the spec I want. [/quote] Well if it's a definitely a custom, I can't recommend ACGs enough mate, and they've just started doing a new J-Type bass which might be up your street if you like a more traditional looking bass >> [url="http://www.acguitars.co.uk/Available/17/"]http://www.acguitars...k/Available/17/[/url] Eude

[quote name='Rumple' timestamp='1332175110' post='1584309'] Swamp Ash I've obviously heard of but Limba is a new one on me, You have all put a smile on my face today as sub 8lbs would exceed what I hoped for. [/quote] Limba is a bit like Mahogany tonewise from what I've heard, although I'm not sure what a very lightweight piece would be like. I think you could also look at Spanish Cedar and Cherry too, but if you're into more "trad" sounding basses, I think Swamp Ash will be right up your street, either that or a chambered body made of more regular wood. 8 lbs is definitely possible, in fact I reckon it can be guaranteed if you go custom, but you might find something off the shelf that would be light enough, [b]funkle[/b] on here had a love swamp ash Lakland 4 string that was easily sub 8 lbs in my opinion, think he moved it on a while ago though. Eude

[quote name='Rumple' timestamp='1332172895' post='1584263'] Thanks Eude, looks like you've got a stunner there and I'm amazed at that weight, I thought I was being optimistic hoping for sub 9lbs but it's obviously quite achievable. Swamp Ash could be the answer [/quote] Yeah man, some super light swamp ash will sort you right out! Mine would be a lot lighter if I had gone for a lighter neck material, and I guess without the single-cut shape you'd lose a little more weight too... Sub 8 lbs is definitely achievable. Lightweight Hipshot hardware will help you along the way too. One of Scoop's ACGs, his fretless 4 string Recurve >> [url="http://www.acguitars.co.uk/Gallery/278/"]http://www.acguitars.co.uk/Gallery/278/[/url] is even lighter than my 5er, using some uber light limba, that's another possible wood I reckon? Eude

Swamp Ash mate, that's what you need. I'd give Alan at ACG a shout. My 5 string >> [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/72396-look-what-i-just-picked-up/"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/72396-look-what-i-just-picked-up/[/url] is well under 8 lbs, probably closer to 7, I'm barely aware I've got it on when I play it and it's got a Wenge neck! You're welcome to have a shot of it, but it's not going anywhere Eude

[quote name='Grant' timestamp='1332161395' post='1584010'] I've said this before on another thread, but as for single-cuts - they remind me of sperm whales. Sea-bound mammals ahoy! [/quote] Ha ha, I hear you, but I still love them! I believe the first Skjold single cut shape was called a "Whaleback"... Eude

[quote name='Lfalex v1.1' timestamp='1332155772' post='1583912'] I (generally) like Warwicks. I own 3, so I should do. However, both the Vampyre AND the Dolphin are wrong (as shown is this thread) Why? Gold hardware on the Dolphin. It really should be black. The pick-ups. That's what's really wrong. What makes the Dolphin, Infinity, Vampyre and Fortress Masterman great is the pick-up complement; J/JJ. JJ in the case of the Fortress MM. Go up to 6 strings, and the MEC Js and JJs are too short, so out come the soapbars. Unless they're a single coil at the neck and a tappable parallel humbucker at the bridge, they'll sound somewhat different to their progenitors. I understand that others may feel differently, but this detail ruins it for me. And am I alone in finding the Vampyre ever so slightly vulgar? Maybe it's too loud, and I really am getting too old! [/quote] Yup, I loathe gold hardware, on any bass, it just looks cheap and nasty. Black would look so much better. I think you're right about the pickups too, bit of a cop out really. Especially as they now pretty fit any kind of pickups you want, albeit for a fee. These are show pieces for Musikmesse, so it really wouldn't have hurt all that much to pop in some Delanos or even some different MECs in there. Even if they couldn't match the exact Dolphin or Vampyre pickups they could've got close, or maybe just done something a bit different... Eude

[quote name='jnoinkeis' timestamp='1332153221' post='1583874'] From the Albert Hall site - [color=#333333][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=2][b]Wednesday 4 April[/b] [i]Sailing The Seas Of Cheese[/i] & [i]Green Naugahyde[/i] performed in full[/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=2][b]Thursday 5 April[/b] 2 special sets spanning the entire catalogue[/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=2]Oh boy oh boy![/size][/font][/color] [/quote] Excellent, very glad I went for the Thursday night! I love Sailing The Seas of Cheese a hell of a lot, but Pork Soda is definitely my favourite album, closely followed by The Brown Album, so there's every chance they'll play a little of both then. Nice. Eude

[quote name='Grant' timestamp='1332154777' post='1583894'] Don't like Dolphins. They don't even look like a dolphin. And they haven't got built in sonar. Or their own TV show. Nasty. You'll have someone's eye out with that... [/quote] I hear ya, but there is a kind of Dolphinesque elegance to the design, especially the old "Pro 2" which came in solid colours. This is just a little reminiscent of a Dolphin, right?... Eude

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1332152940' post='1583868'] That is one of the MOST BEAUTIFUL basses I have ever seen! [/quote] Unfortunately, I imagine it will also be one of the most expensive too... Eude

Oh my, they're doing a 6 string Vampyre now too! [url="http://www.warwick.de/modules/custom_shop/NewsCustomShop.php?newsID=3651&modell=Vampyre&page=1&cl=EN"]http://www.warwick.de/modules/custom_shop/NewsCustomShop.php?newsID=3651&modell=Vampyre&page=1&cl=EN[/url] One thing that always bugged me about some of the Warwick range was that would only do 4 and 5 string versions of their more exotic looking beasts. Looks like they're caught on Eude

Reckon it'll look cool mate

Perhaps a NEO speaker? They tend to produce a bit more mids than their ceramic cousins. The reason the GS cabs scoop the mids a bit at volume is to do with the cab design, from what I've heard, that sacrifices a bit of mids for the surprisingly huge low end extension. A NEO cab might be just the ticket though. Not tried it myself but I used to own a GS 112 back in the day... Eude