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[quote name='GremlinAndy' post='835593' date='May 12 2010, 07:29 PM']Russia? Holy cow! Great googly moogly! Good luck with that buddy. I think you'll f'ing storm 'em!!!![/quote] Cheers Andy! Just waiting for the final go-ahead on this. If it's a good one I'll recommend you to the Promoter for the future

Gorgeous.... just GORGEOUS! Many congrats!

[quote name='JTUK' post='837526' date='May 14 2010, 07:25 PM']Those two aren't arbiters of tone, IMV anyway, but..[/quote] I didn't say they were.... I simply pointed out that the individual tone each of them is known for is generally very popular and often pursued.... they were simply 'examples'....re-read my post. [quote name='JTUK' post='837526' date='May 14 2010, 07:25 PM']If you spend your £700 in a shop, you'll be getting a bass that cost...what..? half that to make..and you'll skimp on a few components, maybe average tuners or pups..[/quote] There are plenty of basses in the £700-£1000 range that are SUPERBLY made with no skimping on comoponents, tuners, hardware, woods, build quality etc... I'm not knocking boutique luthiers - simply pointing out that after a certain price point you aren't necessarily getting that much better an instrument, indeed you are often paying for the name/supposed associated prestige.....

[quote name='JTUK' post='837322' date='May 14 2010, 03:57 PM']I own a few basses that would cost me that to commission and I can categorically say they are better basses ( way way better ) than anything you can buy for £700 in the high st.[/quote] Better in what way though?!? Feel is a personal thing, build quality after a certain point is moot.... tone is a combination of the playing style and good quality equipment. To use a couple of quick examples of very popular modern rock bass tones.... Duff McKagan (GnR/Velvert Revolver) - simple Jap Fender into GK Billy Gould (Faith No More) - Aria into Peavey Classic rock, soul & funk tones from the 70's were very often standard Fenders/Ricks into Ampegs etc All the above are quality gear but none are 'boutique' or ridiculously expensive. After a certain point, great tone has been achieved (and usually just from the fingers/pick of the player!).... There are very few boutique bass/amp makers that have made that sort of tonal impact.... except maybe Wal & a couple of others.... Honestly, when was the last time you saw a well known player (known for his amazing tone) playing something like a (e.g.) Ritter through a (e.g.) Glockenklang rig?!?

IMHO, it's like many things...... when you pay for an item you get what you pay for BUT only up to a reasonable amount. e.g. Is any completely handmade bass over £2000 REALLY gonna sound/feel/look THAT much better than one that was CNC cut but hand assembled with quality components for £700? I think not... With money/common sense an issue I would always purchase a Spector Euro over a US Spector as I don't believe the US ones to be worth £2k more (though they're gorgeous!). Same with Fenders - I would always go with MIJ/CIJ over USA for the same reason. Same thing applies to amps. A well made amplifier by a top brand (Mesa, GenzBenz, EBS, GK, Trace, Peavey, etc) is going to fit the bill for reliability, value for money, resale value etc if it can satisfy your tonal requirements. Need a little more grind? Add a Sansamp or similar in front of it as you would a pedal for your tonal palette... In all things I believe there to be a middle-band where quality/price/value-for-money all collide at the best point.

VERY tempting! Only £295 from Thomann too!

[quote name='cameltoe' post='833722' date='May 10 2010, 10:28 PM']low mids- good high mids- rubbery[/quote] Nah.... Low Mids - Tight Oomph High Mids - Lovely 'Grind'

[quote name='Marvin' post='829849' date='May 6 2010, 05:39 PM']I posted a thread about tone several months ago. In it several posts referred to the mids in getting their tone, specifically cetera. Since Christmas I've been playing through a zoom pedal and got a little sidetracked, however this afternoon I was twiddling with my practice amp and remembered what cetera said about inverting the usual U shaped eq that many of us go for. And.......oh yes, push up those mids, turn down the bass and treble (but not too much) and what a difference. Literally a tone I've been looking for. I just wanted to share that. Don't forget those mids. [/quote] *blush* You're welcome Mids are where it's at!

You know how I feel about your 'Scavenger' Nice Westone's too!

Lush collection you have there mate

Well the Manchester Ritz show was a BLAST!! 1500 people and loads of new friends as a result Time for a summer break now then back in August with a trip to Russia(!!) before resuming UK gigging (see above ^ post)

[quote name='gelfin' post='828021' date='May 4 2010, 11:08 PM']Excellent news, We need many more venues like this in Cardiff. I can crawl home from here in 30 mins. Anyone remember the POINT?[/quote] Ah yes..... an old fave of ours, much missed

There may be some returns at the venue on the day.... but apparently they're like 'gold dust' now...

[quote name='OldGit' post='825387' date='May 2 2010, 11:04 AM']WooT! Date please [/quote] Friday 3rd December

Excellent stuff! We prebooked for later this year (December?) so good to know it'll go ahead!

[quote name='Mr Fudge' post='823603' date='Apr 30 2010, 12:31 AM']I'm not a miserable git as pictured.[/quote] I'd now that stage anywhere.... The Robin2 in Bilston?!?

[quote name='Johnston' post='823337' date='Apr 29 2010, 07:47 PM'][/quote] Big +1 Also: Peter Cetera (Chicago) Tiran Porter (Doobie Brothers) Paul Goddard (Atlanta Rhythm Section) Guy Pratt (Toy Matinee/Pink Floyd) Joe Puerta (Ambrosia) Dee Murray (Elton John band)

Our headline show (Rock Radio B'day Bash) at Manchester Ritz next Friday (7th) is now SOLD OUT!! All 1500 tickets sold! Woohoo!!

[quote name='paul h' post='821522' date='Apr 28 2010, 09:06 AM']I saw them years and years ago at the old Robin in Brierly Hill and absolutely loved it! I see the potential for getting someone else to drive and being able to sleep it off at my folks place. I will begin texting arrangements immediately![/quote] Marvellous Stourbridge is always a great gig for us..... would be lovely to see you there!

[quote name='GremlinAndy' post='821513' date='Apr 28 2010, 08:59 AM'][u]Well[/u] worth the travel in my humble opinion! I haven't seen any other band around these parts put on anything like as professional and entertaining a show as these guys. ..oh, and authentic, did I mention authentic? I shall be going to see them as often as I can get![/quote] *blush* Very kind of you, mate..... same can be said for you guys from what I've seen on YouTube! Join us (the band) and me personally on Facebook if you're on there...