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Same. I don’t like the 5/6/7 basses with fancy wood grains and weird shapes but I don’t go commenting on every thread which features them.

It can work both ways though? The fear of being labelled "racist" is widely cited to be a key reason for the police not properly investigating some of the appalling grooming gangs in Bradford and other cities. If folk are anti large numbers of migrants crossing the channel in small boats and peacefully protest against this, does that make them racist or are they entitled to express what very many others regard as a legitimate viewpoint? A parallel question would be: are we comfortable being in a band with a bandmate who is a Class A drug user? I'm sure pretty much all BC'ers are anti-racist and not homophobic, as is very clear from this thread, but some of this stuff is not always clear cut and it then goes to our values and a sense of what is right and wrong. We will each know that deep down and it's up to us to live with our consciences.

The market isn’t saturated if all the people making them are selling them. if you don’t like them you don’t have to have a long winge about it, just move onto the next thread. If these are made well they are a good price and I like the look of them.

On a new sofa...

I'm out. I've made my position clear. If you're a right wing boor who says bad things about/wishes ill upon people they don't even know based upon where they came from/what religion they adhere to/gender/skin colour/pick an arbitrary reason to make your odious point, then stay the f out of my way. No doubt you'll call me "woke" - whatever the f that means.

Thanks for the replies. For £16 I may as well try the behrinnger. If there is a little noise, it'll be hidden when I add distortion and put it in a metal mix.

The man on the Clapham omnibus might make a different inference than the man on the Mersey ferry. BTW, I'm not arguing with the law itself, but rather against the assertion that it definitively defines the term. Incidentally, if it is so definitive, then why is there a multi-page document giving guidance on it (https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/racist-and-religious-hate-crime-prosecution-guidance), along with a supplementary multi-page document (https://www.cps.gov.uk/publication/public-statement-prosecuting-racist-and-religious-hate-crime)? If you have to read those documents in order to understand what the rules (law) are, then it is evidently not so definitive at all. I have my interpretation of the word, others have theirs, the UK law has verbiage on the matter, Loughborough University appears to state that only a majority group can manifest racism against a smaller group, the UN has its definition, Brazil has theirs, the USA theirs, and so-on.

I ordered an Artec but it seems it was dead on arrival, hopefully you have better luck than me. The preamp on the mezzo is pretty hot but I am sceptical that the pickup was too hot for the preamp as a I had a Seymour Duncan hot Spb2 in one a while back and no issues, I actually chose the SPB-2 to counter the mid scoop in the preamp and it was a great match and did exactly that.

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Quite a lot of legislation isn’t fit for purpose. It’s part of ‘the problem’. Plus the general level of education now means most of us wouldn’t /cant understand it anyway

It conflates a number of things: age, marital status, skin colour, disabilities into one overarching law. But, as you hint with your "wordy legalise" comment, it is imprecise and so does not define the term. As with most/all UK laws, items are open to interpretation and I would certainly say that the Act can be efficacious in providing the desired results. However, the term "racism" it is not defined. Therefore its meaning is open to interpretation.

I believe two parts of the Act are relevant here. 1. the Introduction - An Act to make provision to require Ministers of the Crown and others when making strategic decisions about the exercise of their functions to have regard to the desirability of reducing socio-economic inequalities; to reform and harmonise equality law and restate the greater part of the enactments relating to discrimination and harassment related to certain personal characteristics; to enable certain employers to be required to publish information about the differences in pay between male and female employees; to prohibit victimisation in certain circumstances; to require the exercise of certain functions to be with regard to the need to eliminate discrimination and other prohibited conduct; to enable duties to be imposed in relation to the exercise of public procurement functions; to increase equality of opportunity; to amend the law relating to rights and responsibilities in family relationships; and for connected purposes. This outlaws "discrimination and harassment" base on a number of personal characteristics, 2. the definition of race (at Setion 9) - Race (1)Race includes— (a)colour; (b)nationality; (c)ethnic or national origins. (2)In relation to the protected characteristic of race— (a)a reference to a person who has a particular protected characteristic is a reference to a person of a particular racial group; (b)a reference to persons who share a protected characteristic is a reference to persons of the same racial group. (3)A racial group is a group of persons defined by reference to race; and a reference to a person's racial group is a reference to a racial group into which the person falls. (4)The fact that a racial group comprises two or more distinct racial groups does not prevent it from constituting a particular racial group. Therefore to discriminate or harass based on these characteristics is outlawed. Is not racism being defined here, for the purposes of the Law? The word itself may be missing but the man on the Clapham omnibus will know what is being defined here.

If your need is one session, loan one from a friend. Constant use, go for something good. I've had my Countryman 85 maybe 15 years, and I bought it used. It is maybe +25 years old, but sturdy, uncoloured, and works on a 9 V battery or Phantom.

Agree @danbanbass, I think they look great

I'd say there is a difference between a fan-fret and a copy of a specific instrument.

And yet since it’s the primary legislation used in the U.K, maybe your assertion is wrong. If it didn’t provide a useable definition, then it wouldn’t be fit for purpose.

Anyone still got this? Would love to hear it

I can't see the word anywhere in that document. The fact that you can look at it and say yes and I can look at it and say no therefore demonstrates that your assertions here are flawed. And therefore the answer is no.

I think it's really important that we talk about stuff like this here, at work, in the pub and anywhere else possible. If we don't, a vacuum forms and only the most vociferous and cynical voices fill it. And in a world in which unmoderated, unchecked, unleavened info comes at us non-stop (and frequently via channels with opaque motives and intetests) we owe it to ourselves to ensure that moderate voices and quiet wisdom are not drowned out. I'm fairly certain there are people who are currently being led down a particular path who would be easily swayed if real data and logic were presented to them in a digestible way. I fear for what may come to pass ultimately on a wave of populism fired up by ignorance, fear and half-truths. Bickering and semantics are a sure fire way to get discussion shutdown.

I heard that's why they decommissioned the Royal Train, so that @neepheid could use it to travel to bass bashes.

While I don’t disagree, these look to be affordable and decent quality but then you don’t hear me going round saying “another fan fret, multi string pile of metal/funk junk either” One man’s junk is another man’s treasure. I just despise paying ridiculous money for a Fender custom shop bass. Also the fact that I can order exactly what I want rather than having something off the shelf is appealing.

I have the thomann cheapo di box. It's passive, and other than the signal being reduced slightly, I've no complaints!

This thread is descending into farce, with a side order of virtue signalling. I suppose it's inevitable on here.

In wordy legalese, yes.