Vintage MIJ (formerly J@pCr@p) Spotting

[Happy Jack]

[quote name='BottomEndian' post='554892' date='Jul 29 2009, 11:12 AM']So, are the fretwire "markers" raised above the surface of the board like actual frets, or have they just laid the tang part into the board, leaving a flat surface?[/quote]

They're perfectly sunk at both top and sides to leave a completely smooth surface.

Put some Rotosound flats on it and she sings now ... harmonics are particularly clear and bright. Mwah is no more than OK but that's almost certainly my poor technique.

I was wrong about the weight. On the scales she comes in at nearer 9 lbs, which is a lot heavier than I thought. The moral of this story is: Don't play an 11 lb Fender Roscoe Beck for a month and then try judging the weight of another bass!

[Bassassin]

Sounds like a stunner Jack, hope you'll furnish us with some pics soon!

J.

[2x18]

Grantson EB2 Copy

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/60-s-bass-rare-hard-to-find_W0QQitemZ180391231004QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item2a0027be1c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/60-s-bass-rare-hard-...id=p3286.c0.m14[/url]

[Happy Jack]

[quote name='2x18' post='556866' date='Jul 31 2009, 10:10 AM']Grantson EB2 Copy

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/60-s-bass-rare-hard-to-find_W0QQitemZ180391231004QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item2a0027be1c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/60-s-bass-rare-hard-...id=p3286.c0.m14[/url][/quote]

Now with added illiteracy ...

[Moos3h]

Now that really irritates me, it's an advert - why do people not read these things back to themselves?

Also, you don't have to be David Bailey to realize that when taking photos of a guitar, it might be wise to use portrait orientation.

Gah.

[Happy Jack]

[quote name='Bassassin' post='555738' date='Jul 29 2009, 11:15 PM']Sounds like a stunner Jack, hope you'll furnish us with some pics soon!

J.[/quote]

OK, here we go.

First, some reference shots against my 75 P:

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Second, a complete set of Ibbypics can now be found at [url="http://tinypic.com/m/54vxb7/3"]http://tinypic.com/m/54vxb7/3[/url]

[SteveO]

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='557411' date='Jul 31 2009, 09:29 PM']Now with added illiteracy ...[/quote]
Spelling 'My' as 'Mij' is fairly common amongst dyslexics of course he's not necessarily dyslexic, misht just be a lazy t**t. 2 B fair it cld B wrs. at lst e's usng reet prppr wrds*


*It was a pittiful atempt at txtspeak, I know. I had to use an online translator.

[Happy Jack]

[quote name='SteveO' post='557736' date='Aug 1 2009, 12:45 PM']Spelling 'My' as 'Mij' is fairly common amongst dyslexics [/quote]

I hope that was a joke ...

[Ou7shined]

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='557718' date='Aug 1 2009, 12:31 PM'][attachment=30069:CIMG0129.JPG][/quote]
Sadowsky blues?


[quote name='Happy Jack' post='557718' date='Aug 1 2009, 12:31 PM'][attachment=30070:CIMG0130.JPG][/quote]
D'you know what if, I was Fender, I'd sue.

[sgt-pluck]

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='557718' date='Aug 1 2009, 12:31 PM']OK, here we go.

First, some reference shots against my 75 P:

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Second, a complete set of Ibbypics can now be found at [url="http://tinypic.com/m/54vxb7/3"]http://tinypic.com/m/54vxb7/3[/url][/quote]

It's clearly superior to that rubbishy old Fender. Tell you what, I'll give you a couple of hundred for the Fender and that'll mean you got the Ibanez for free - how about that?!

Seriously though - that looks very nice indeed. I don't get on with fretless, otherwise we may have had a bit of a bidding war on our hands!

Pluck

[Happy Jack]

I'm still getting to grips with the intonation. You have to play ON the "frets" to hit the right note, rather than just behind them. After years of trying to play consistently just behind the fret, it's a bit of a struggle to avoid doing it now!

In my (very limited) experience of fretless playing, it's usually best to avoid looking at the neck when playing.

Just wish I had the confidence to do that.

[Ou7shined]

Can't you just adjust the bridge intonation to combat that?

[nick]

Lovely looking [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/El-Maya-EB-2200-Bass_W0QQitemZ290336204846QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item439962e82e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14"]El Maya EB-2200[/url]

[Happy Jack]

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='558342' date='Aug 2 2009, 11:06 AM']Can't you just adjust the bridge intonation to combat that?[/quote]


Hmmm.

I'm not sure that the intonation as such is actually "wrong", it's more a matter of where Ibanez have put the markers.

If I try to adjust the intonation to move the "right notes" to just behind the markers, I suspect that I'll open a can of worms.

If My Ricky Fretless sells, then the Ibby will be my only fretless and it will actually be easier to modify my (non-existent) fretless technique.

[Bassassin]

[quote name='nick' post='558688' date='Aug 2 2009, 07:26 PM']Lovely looking [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/El-Maya-EB-2200-Bass_W0QQitemZ290336204846QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item439962e82e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14"]El Maya EB-2200[/url][/quote]
That's a BCer, Deaver, selling that. The full story's mostly in this very thread. And yes - it's a gorgeous-looking & incredibly uncommon bass.

J.

[tauzero]

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='557767' date='Aug 1 2009, 01:31 PM']D'you know what if, I was Fender, I'd sue. [/quote]
"How dare you have a more attractive, richer, deeper sunburst than us! We'll see your ass in court!"

I've never been entirely sure what donkeys have to do with the American legal process but it does seem to feature them a lot.

[Bassassin]

[quote name='tauzero' post='559273' date='Aug 3 2009, 03:09 PM']"How dare you have a more attractive, richer, deeper sunburst than us! We'll see your ass in court!"[/quote]
As it turned out it was more like "How dare you have deeper, richer sunburst than us? We'll get the same factory to make our basses! My Squier SQ Precision had the most stunning burst I've ever seen, makes me wish I hadn't sold it...

Funny thing is, they never did sue, neither did Gibson, Rickenbacker or anyone else.

Jon.

[deaver]

[quote name='nick' post='558688' date='Aug 2 2009, 07:26 PM']Lovely looking [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/El-Maya-EB-2200-Bass_W0QQitemZ290336204846QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item439962e82e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14"]El Maya EB-2200[/url][/quote]

It's only down the road in Salisbury if you want to check it out. I'll probably be taking it to the SE Bass Bash if it doesn't sell this time round.

[BottomEndian]

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='558729' date='Aug 2 2009, 08:30 PM']Hmmm.

I'm not sure that the intonation as such is actually "wrong", it's more a matter of where Ibanez have put the markers.

If I try to adjust the intonation to move the "right notes" to just behind the markers, I suspect that I'll open a can of worms. [/quote]
It's what [url="http://garywillis.com/pages/bass/bassmanual/intonation3.html"]Gary Willis recommends[/url] -- and who am I to argue? It definitely makes it easier for me to switch between fretted and fretless like this.

[nick]

Nice looking & fairly decent [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-Kay-Bass-Guitar-Thru-Neck-Epiphone-style_W0QQitemZ280380283913QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item4147f79c09&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14"]Kay[/url]

Mate of mine has 6-string version of this & it's not bad. Not the usual Kay crap.

[Bassassin]

[quote name='nick' post='562184' date='Aug 6 2009, 07:39 PM']Nice looking & fairly decent [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-Kay-Bass-Guitar-Thru-Neck-Epiphone-style_W0QQitemZ280380283913QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item4147f79c09&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14"]Kay[/url]

Mate of mine has 6-string version of this & it's not bad. Not the usual Kay crap.[/quote]
That's 'cos these were Corts, made in K'rea around 1980, from secret plans nicked off Matsumoku & Kasuga. I had one of these and it was a really nice bass - apart from an uncorrectable neck-twist. Gah. I'd buy another in a moment if I could find one for the £50 (or less) that I bought the last one for.

J.

[paul h]

That is rather nice looking.

Lucky for me I have no money!

[spinynorman]

[quote name='Bassassin' post='559282' date='Aug 3 2009, 03:20 PM']As it turned out it was more like "How dare you have deeper, richer sunburst than us? We'll get the same factory to make our basses! My Squier SQ Precision had the most stunning burst I've ever seen, makes me wish I hadn't sold it...

Funny thing is, they never did sue, neither did Gibson, Rickenbacker or anyone else.

Jon.[/quote]

Funny that Rickenbacker, having failed to do anything about it at the time, now hound Rickenfakers off eBay.

[LukeFRC]

[url="http://edinburgh.gumtree.com/edinburgh/48/43145348.html"]thingy on gumtree[/url], i copied and pasted it then forgot what it was....

[Bassassin]

[quote name='spinynorman' post='563052' date='Aug 7 2009, 08:43 PM']Funny that Rickenbacker, having failed to do anything about it at the time, now hound Rickenfakers off eBay.[/quote]
Actually they probably don't! They've got two forum-loads of rabid Rick-owners to do it for them! They might send the occasional C&D letter to US-based importers of dodgy Chinese knock-offs but The Rickenfaithful do most of the legwork.

However, the web & Ebay have made Rick copies that much more visible, and therefore the activity in shutting down sales is similarly higher in profile - as dictated by the requirements of US trademark law.

Luke - that's a Westone Thunder, de-fretted so not getting the money he wants. I think it started at £200-ish; if it gets to £50 I might have a punt...

J.