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Hi folks!

Bit of a bump for this thread...

I had a couple of hours this morning, so I thought I'd make some clips of my P's and J's into my RH450 and a Berg HS210.

They're a bit lo-tech and non-scientific, but I think they might be useful to someone with old-school tastes.

I hope someone finds them useful....

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQJBbsGeBGY"]Fretted Precision, flats...[/url]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA20RtWtVrc"]Fretted Jazz, flats, different pickup balances...[/url]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y7n17OrDjQ"]Fretless Precision, flats...[/url]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2KBulGPp6Y"]Another look at the fretted Jazz w/flats, different pickup balances and a demonstration of the total lack of buzz or hum...[/url]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=BE0918FF7BFF4C40"]Here's a link to other bass clips I've made...[/url]

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Very helpful mr WoT. Thankee.

Seriously looking at buying one of these, and it sounds good to me. nice noodle btw :)

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[quote name='wateroftyne' post='833259' date='May 10 2010, 05:06 PM'][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2KBulGPp6Y"]Another look at the fretted Jazz w/flats, different pickup balances and a demonstration of the total lack of buzz or hum...[/url][/quote]

Watch it young fella me lad there was a bit of Disco/Funk in that there demo... get back to them thar C&W licks! :rolleyes: :)

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[quote name='warwickhunt' post='833339' date='May 10 2010, 06:00 PM']Watch it young fella me lad there was a bit of Disco/Funk in that there demo... get back to them thar C&W licks! :lol: :)[/quote]
You haven't seen me since I grew my Afro and started wearing silver sparkly leggings, have you? :rolleyes:

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[quote name='wateroftyne' post='833359' date='May 10 2010, 06:11 PM']You haven't seen me since I grew my Afro and started wearing silver sparkly leggings, have you? :rolleyes:[/quote]

So that was 'you' at Howie's last gig! :)

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WoT, I had a good listen, and I must admit the basses sound much more focussed and 'articulate', but still warm and smooth. I like it....compared to the older tones you had, (the Mesa did sound great BTW) I can see why you are favouring the RH450.


How are you finding the compressor?

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Apart from the Typo in the price of the Rh450 (£11099 :) ) the Bundled 2x RS410, RH450/pedal seems way too cheap might be worth a punt for someone.

[url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/TCE_Rigs.html"]http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_sp...s/TCE_Rigs.html[/url]

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I've done so many gigs now with my RH450, and the honeymoon glow STILL hasn't faded.

All the amps I've been through, it normally wears off pretty quick.

It's just so flippin' good!

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[quote name='Geddys nose' post='838499' date='May 15 2010, 10:36 PM']Apart from the Typo in the price of the Rh450 (£11099 :) ) the Bundled 2x RS410, RH450/pedal seems way too cheap might be worth a punt for someone.[/quote]

It does seem daft that you can get the amp and a PAIR of 4x10's cheaper than the amp and any two other cabs. Methinks when you enquire it'll be a single 4x10, another typo from BD... unless they agree to honour the deal! :rolleyes:

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Anyone used the RH450 with a Barefaced compact?

I better get that amp before the euro collapses altogether :) Makes the US proaudioline deals look even more attractive, but it's a long way to send under warranty.

Any thoughts?

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[quote name='wateroftyne' post='838619' date='May 16 2010, 08:48 AM']I've done so many gigs now with my RH450, and the honeymoon glow STILL hasn't faded.

All the amps I've been through, it normally wears off pretty quick.

It's just so flippin' good![/quote]

Same here, the RH450 is another keeper alongside my Eden WT400 which I gigged solidly from 1999 through to 2008

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Classic vs RH450, am I right the only differences are the built in tuner and the 3 presets?

Tubetone and compressor seem the same.

I'm asking because the price difference at Thomann is now 985 euro vs 639 euro, and that's before you ad 170 euro for the rh450 footswitch.

Altogether a gobsmacking £430 sterling extra for the presets with footswitch.

My main reason for wanting the 450 in the first place is so i don't have to carry valve and compressor pedals. So if the two models are the same in that department...

Or would I regret not having the bells n whistles?

Help, girls and boys! Decision time looming. :)

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[quote name='fatback' post='869045' date='Jun 16 2010, 02:12 PM']Classic vs RH450, am I right the only differences are the built in tuner and the 3 presets?

Tubetone and compressor seem the same.

I'm asking because the price difference at Thomann is now 985 euro vs 639 euro, and that's before you ad 170 euro for the rh450 footswitch.

Altogether a gobsmacking £430 sterling extra for the presets with footswitch.

My main reason for wanting the 450 in the first place is so i don't have to carry valve and compressor pedals. So if the two models are the same in that department...

Or would I regret not having the bells n whistles?

Help, girls and boys! Decision time looming. :)[/quote]

You also get a much more versatile EQ with the RH450, and the fact it 'looks' a little more polished with the red LEDs, etc.

I it were me, Id pick the RH450 time and time again. The features work really well.

Edited by Musicman20

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I think I'd be happy with the classic... but then I don't use the presets that much and I'm happy with the default EQ points.

That's a stroke of luck on my part though - I'd recommend going for the RH unless you know for a fact you're happy with the default EQ points too.

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[quote name='Musicman20' post='869060' date='Jun 16 2010, 02:25 PM']You also get a much more versatile EQ with the RH450, and the fact it 'looks' a little more polished with the red LEDs, etc.

I it were me, Id pick the RH450 time and time again. The features work really well.[/quote]

Ah. I didn't check the EQ. TC call the Classic's EQ 'vintage', whatever that means and don't say anything more. Does that mean they're passive and the RH450s are true EQ?

But it doesn't look like the RH450's are parametric (or are they?). If they were, that would matter to me. I might well need parametric for feedback control if I bite the bullet and get an upright.

Not bothered about the look; or at least i'm not willing to pay that much for it :)


Thanks for your help. Big decision for me :rolleyes:

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[quote name='fatback' post='869104' date='Jun 16 2010, 02:51 PM']Ah. I didn't check the EQ. TC call the Classic's EQ 'vintage', whatever that means and don't say anything more. Does that mean they're passive and the RH450s are true EQ?

But it doesn't look like the RH450's are parametric (or are they?). If they were, that would matter to me. I might well need parametric for feedback control if I bite the bullet and get an upright.

Not bothered about the look; or at least i'm not willing to pay that much for it :)


Thanks for your help. Big decision for me :rolleyes:[/quote]
By 'vintage' I think they mean voiced in the vintage stylee. You get boost or cut at pre-specified points.

The RH is semi-parametric - you can select the frequencies you want to boost ot cut.

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[quote name='wateroftyne' post='869112' date='Jun 16 2010, 02:54 PM']By 'vintage' I think they mean voiced in the vintage stylee. You get boost or cut at pre-specified points.

The RH is semi-parametric - you can select the frequencies you want to boost ot cut.[/quote]

Mmm. Makes me think I might get a B stock one in from the US.

Proaudiostar seem good, and the price difference inc. footswitch is £380 even with postage. I can get VAT back if they charge me that, and I don't think import tax would be too much.

Downside is the cost of returning it if it has a prob.

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[quote name='fatback' post='869130' date='Jun 16 2010, 03:08 PM']Mmm. Makes me think I might get a B stock one in from the US.

Proaudiostar seem good, and the price difference inc. footswitch is £380 even with postage. I can get VAT back if they charge me that, and I don't think import tax would be too much.

Downside is the cost of returning it if it has a prob.[/quote]

I got one from Proaudiostar. No problems, and it's done a fair few gigs.

Pete

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[quote name='funkle' post='869203' date='Jun 16 2010, 04:28 PM']I got one from Proaudiostar. No problems, and it's done a fair few gigs.

Pete[/quote]


Thanks, good to know. It's a big saving.

Just noticed your sig. :) great memories of living in 'Embra'.

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I got mine from ProAudioStar too - is fine. However, if there were any warranty issues TC won't cover it over here - you would have to send it back to the US.

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Ok, so I have to own up that I'm struggling a bit to get the sound in my head out of my RH450 + RS212 / RS210 rig.

It sounds really nice and 'warm' but I'm more of a modern 'hi-fi' sound kinda person and I can't seem to coax this out of the RH.

I picked up an old SWR ST220 this week & love the sound of this straight out of the box without even touching the tone controls, dial in a little aural enhancer & it's pretty much exactly the sound I'm after. Nice and punchy & with lots of sparkly high end. I'm running this into the RS cabs so it's definitely something in the head I'm having problems with.

I'd love to be able to replicate this sound with the RH because of the wonderful flexibility of the pre-sets & tuner but I can't seem to find it so far :)

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[quote name='molan' post='872068' date='Jun 19 2010, 07:49 PM']Ok, so I have to own up that I'm struggling a bit to get the sound in my head out of my RH450 + RS212 / RS210 rig.

It sounds really nice and 'warm' but I'm more of a modern 'hi-fi' sound kinda person and I can't seem to coax this out of the RH.[/quote]

Perhaps the Staccato model would have suited you more..

I've heard lots of demos of the RH450 that I really liked, though on a brief trial I had on it in Andertons (Guilford) I fould myself immediately reaching for the eq to brighten it up a bit. Expect I would have found a setting I liked with a little more time

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Its the lo pass filter that keeps it sounding more 'old school'. The software im testing allows you to change this and make it more Markbass-like, but personally I quite like to more thick creamy high end.

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[quote name='molan' post='872068' date='Jun 19 2010, 07:49 PM']Ok, so I have to own up that I'm struggling a bit to get the sound in my head out of my RH450 + RS212 / RS210 rig.

It sounds really nice and 'warm' but I'm more of a modern 'hi-fi' sound kinda person and I can't seem to coax this out of the RH.

I picked up an old SWR ST220 this week & love the sound of this straight out of the box without even touching the tone controls, dial in a little aural enhancer & it's pretty much exactly the sound I'm after. Nice and punchy & with lots of sparkly high end. I'm running this into the RS cabs so it's definitely something in the head I'm having problems with.

I'd love to be able to replicate this sound with the RH because of the wonderful flexibility of the pre-sets & tuner but I can't seem to find it so far :)[/quote]

That's why I kept my Markbass amps as well as the RH450 - the one sound that eludes the RH450 is that super hi-fi clean sound I can't get from my F500.

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