Behringer meatball

[sshorepunk]

 

[Al Krow]

Thanks for sharing that. Be interesting to see what Behringer are going to be retailing these for? Hopefully will put these within reach of many more musos given that the original Lovetone Meatball typically sells for around £750 used!

[MichaelDean]

£99 on Andertons.

https://www.andertons.co.uk/behringer-meatball-envelope-filter-pedal/?search_query=behringer meatball

[Supernaut]

I remember when Behringer pedals were £20! 
 

Incidentally, my BDI21 is still going strong. Purchased new in 2007. 

Edited December 9, 2025 by Supernaut

[admiralchew]

Interesting timing:

 

[LukeFRC]

9 hours ago, admiralchew said:

Interesting timing:

 

If it's a live brand it's a lot easier to send Behringer a cease and desist letter for using name and trade dress? 

[ped]

21 minutes ago, LukeFRC said:

If it's a live brand it's a lot easier to send Behringer a cease and desist letter for using name and trade dress? 

 

Is the original company dissolved maybe?

 

It's pretty cheeky of Behringer to say they've been on 'a proper mission' to 'bring back' a bunch of pedals that have just straight up copied, (unless that line is Anderton's own work) but I know this is not uncommon in the pedal world and lots of clones are available. Copying the graphics this closely is taking the piss a bit though.

 

I haven't tried the B-tron or the Meatringer but I'm curious to see what Lovetone will bring to the party. The only thing I would find useful would be a foot switchable effects loop like you find on the Chromatron but beyond that, and as someone who loves the original massive housing, I'm not sure how you could improve it.

[sshorepunk]

26 minutes ago, LukeFRC said:

If it's a live brand it's a lot easier to send Behringer a cease and desist letter for using name and trade dress? 

Dan Coggins, the original Lovetone man is involved with thorpyfx on this so very much live 

[LukeFRC]

26 minutes ago, ped said:

It's pretty cheeky of Behringer to say they've been on 'a proper mission' to 'bring back' a bunch of pedals that have just straight up copied

Do you think they bought one and traced it themselves or just used Aion FX's or someone on freestompboxes trace?!

[ped]

41 minutes ago, LukeFRC said:

Do you think they bought one and traced it themselves or just used Aion FX's or someone on freestompboxes trace?!

 

No idea, but they definitely used tracing paper for the logo!

[admiralchew]

I’m glad it’s coming back; it’s a lovely pedal. With Dan Coggin’s involvement at Thorpy I’ve been hoping for something like this for a while.

[pantherairsoft]

I’m very interested in the Thorpyfx version. I suspect it’s going to cost a touch more than the Behringer though!

[Quatschmacher]

On 10/12/2025 at 01:12, admiralchew said:

Interesting timing:

 

Seems fairly self-explanatory that they’ve had to announce early due to the Behringer copy. I’ll be happy to support the original maker. (Some Behringer copies are really good (Model D for example) whereas some are really not up to the rigours of heavy use.)

[Quatschmacher]

On 10/12/2025 at 12:47, admiralchew said:

I’m glad it’s coming back; it’s a lovely pedal. With Dan Coggin’s involvement at Thorpy I’ve been hoping for something like this for a while.

Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water…

[Al Krow]

29 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water…

 

My concern is that this could very possibly be the best filter out there and put even the 3 Leaf stuff in the shade?! May need to dip a toe in with the Behringer clone first?

[paul_5]

Your concern is justified @al krow, the Meatball is the single best filter I've used in over 30 years of playing.

[HoorayForAnonyms]

I’ll be keen to check out the Thorpe FX offering. I wonder what the price might be;  £265ish?
 

And now I’m looking at FTelectronicas version again.
 

https://www.ftelettronica.com/product/envelope-follower-triggered-filter/
 

I really don’t need another filter but…

[Quatschmacher]

37 minutes ago, HoorayForAnonyms said:

I’ll be keen to check out the Thorpe FX offering. I wonder what the price might be;  £265ish?
 

And now I’m looking at FTelectronicas version again.
 

https://www.ftelettronica.com/product/envelope-follower-triggered-filter/
 

I really don’t need another filter but…

Try these too:

https://artisanaleffects.com

[Al Krow]

3 hours ago, paul_5 said:

Your concern is justified @al krow, the Meatball is the single best filter I've used in over 30 years of playing.

 

You've whetted my interest! Out of interest, which other filter pedals have you used?

[paul_5]

1 hour ago, Al Krow said:

 

You've whetted my interest! Out of interest, which other filter pedals have you used?

DOD FX25, DOD FX25B, Q-Tron (big box) Q-Tron Mini, Q-Tron Nano, Q-tron +, Chunk Systems Agent 00Funk (a close second, but mostly because is sooooo much smaller), and a couple of Donner micro pedals (a purple one and a white one). All of them did what I needed them to, but the meatball is just incredibly flexible; I can set it for any sound from any bass.

[LukeFRC]

9 hours ago, Quatschmacher said:

Try these too:

https://artisanaleffects.com

I think they are using Aion’s PCBs for at least some of their stuff 

[tauzero]

On 11/12/2025 at 18:50, Quatschmacher said:

Seems fairly self-explanatory that they’ve had to announce early due to the Behringer copy. I’ll be happy to support the original maker. (Some Behringer copies are really good (Model D for example) whereas some are really not up to the rigours of heavy use.)

 

When you say the original maker, do you mean of the Mu-Tron III that Lovetone based the Meatball on?

[ped]

5 hours ago, tauzero said:

 

When you say the original maker, do you mean of the Mu-Tron III that Lovetone based the Meatball on?

In a sense, every env filter is based on the Mutron. But the Meatball is a different circuit altogether. It’s not a ‘copy’ like the Behringer.
 

Same goes for the 3leaf Chromatron. It takes inspiration from the Meatball but it’s a different design. 

[LukeFRC]

1 hour ago, ped said:

In a sense, every env filter is based on the Mutron.

Not every one, there's a few ways to do an envelope filter electronically... the Meatball is a very very hyped Mutron 3 topology. 
Not that my pedantry matters, as we know from the 6 billion Big Muff varients tuning circuits and a few components being different values can make a massive variation on sound. 

Edited December 13, 2025 by LukeFRC

[ped]

2 minutes ago, LukeFRC said:

Not every one, there's a few ways to do an envelope filter electronically... the Meatball is a very very hyped Mutron 3 topology. 
Not that my pedantry matters, as we know from the 6 billion Big Muff varients tuning circuits and a few components being different values can make a massive variation on sound. 

 

I just mean in the sense that the Mutron was the first (as far as I know!)