cetera Posted May 20 Posted May 20 I absolutely love my LFSys F1 range Monaco cab. Sounds phenomenal.... Looks like @stevie has now released his new more 'wallet-friendly' BlueLine range. Go give them a look.... I'm sure they're wonderful! https://www.lfsys.co.uk/bassguitarproducts 6 Quote
Marvin Posted May 20 Posted May 20 I really do like the look and spec to these. I've been browsing the LFSys site today, impressive 1 Quote
Pea Turgh Posted May 20 Posted May 20 Ah, that’s where the Silverstone went to - did wonder about that when I was browsing the other day. Nice. 1 Quote
Obrienp Posted May 21 Posted May 21 I knew these were coming, having had a dialogue with @stevie when I bought my second Monza recently. They look great and I am sure the spec will appeal to a lot of folks. Well played @stevie! 2 Quote
Obrienp Posted May 21 Posted May 21 P.S. I look forward to reading a review when someone takes the plunge. Obvious comparisons are going to be drawn against another British manufacturer’s products. BlueLine wins on looks IMO and I am sure the performance will be impressive. 2 Quote
Mykesbass Posted May 21 Posted May 21 Goodwood Revival ltd edition in tweed anyone 🤔 Here's to great success for Stevie 👍 3 1 Quote
stevie Posted May 21 Posted May 21 Please don't expect loads of reviews yet. The first Goodwood has gone out to a customer who has promised to report back, and some beta testers have tried the cabs and will no doubt chime in when they're ready. But shipping won't start in earnest for a month or so. 6 Quote
JazzyB Posted May 22 Posted May 22 So it seems that I'm the first customer of the new Goodwood cab and I'm very happy with it so far. I've got it to pair with my GSS baby sumo and line 6 helix lt as I've been after a very transparent clear sound that I can colour as much as I like depending on my mood or who I'm playing with. For my needs the Goodwood seems a very good fit, it would appear loud enough for a jam with a loud drummer (I don't play live on the regular and when I do it's seems to always be through FOH or pa these days), you very much get out what you put in so my jazz had a lovely slap sound (not that I play that style much but it's there) and good funk vibes. My pj with tapewounds could be lovely and warm. As for the low b it handled that with ease so no issues there. With a the sounds I tried what stands out is the clarity of sound. I just sold my GK mb500 with matching cx 210 can that set up was loud and bassy but compared this I would describe it as muddy. Now I like muddy and loved it from a epiphone thunderbird pro I used have but the reason I've gone down the road is I want to chose the sound and have lots of variety without lots of gear although gas may have a part to play. An extra bonus is it sounded great playing some blues on my gretch 6 string semi acoustic so 1 rig to rule them all. Amazing what you get out of a small easy to transport small package. One thing to mention is I would say in the flesh the blue is much darker that it seems in photos which I like and to me makes it look more premium. The cover is top quality to 👍 Stevie has been a pleasure to deal with plus 20% off definitely sweetened the deal 😁 12 Quote
funkle Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Very nice indeed. Great review! I’m still eternally happy with my Silverstone. I’ll have to paint the baffle blue though to make it properly authentic now! 😝 Great work by @stevie. I cannot find a reason to buy another cab that hasn’t been made by him. 4 Quote
Chienmortbb Posted May 23 Posted May 23 10 hours ago, funkle said: Very nice indeed. Great review! I’m still eternally happy with my Silverstone. I’ll have to paint the baffle blue though to make it properly authentic now! 😝 Great work by @stevie. I cannot find a reason to buy another cab that hasn’t been made by him. Me too, do I need a stack? No. Do I want one? Yes. However don’t tell @stevie 2 2 Quote
Obrienp Posted May 23 Posted May 23 That blue baffle looks really good! However, two Monzas is more than enough for anybody. 2 Quote
JazzyB Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Two monzas stacked would make a great gigging setup for most occasions but there are always times for more 😁 1 3 Quote
Linus27 Posted May 23 Posted May 23 I'm really keen to try one of these. As a fretless bassist who very much has the typical 80's Pino/Giblin tone with chorus and octave, I'm super interested in seeing how clean and defined something like the Monza will be. I'm a very melodic bassist, even cello like in places and I play with a gentle drummer with brushes and shakers and an acoustic guitarist. So I'm after a very clean, rich tone. I like my Barefaced Two10 but I find it has a more vintage tone and lacks something and I have used other cabs/combos that I've preferred tonally. The weight, size and power is also perfect as a gigging rig for my setup. 4 Quote
Obrienp Posted May 23 Posted May 23 4 minutes ago, Linus27 said: I'm really keen to try one of these. As a fretless bassist who very much has the typical 80's Pino/Giblin tone with chorus and octave, I'm super interested in seeing how clean and defined something like the Monza will be. I'm a very melodic bassist, even cello like in places and I play with a gentle drummer with brushes and shakers and an acoustic guitarist. So I'm after a very clean, rich tone. I like my Barefaced Two10 but I find it has a more vintage tone and lacks something and I have used other cabs/combos that I've preferred tonally. The weight, size and power is also perfect as a gigging rig for my setup. I’ve got a Two10 as well as the two Monzas at the moment, so I can comment on the difference up to a point. Absolute like to like comparison: same MB LM111 500 with EQ at 12 o’clock and no shaping, same gain and master settings: the Two Monza’s are louder but nothing like as boomy. The Two10 produces overpowering and slightly unpleasant boominess centred around D on the E string, or A string but extended down to the C and up to the E to a lesser extent. I am assuming this is either the cab’s resonant frequency, or my basses’. The Monza’s resonant frequency is around the low B (on a 4 string, not tried a 5) but much less pronounced, with the identical setup and instrument. The Two10 runs out of steam in the highs, whereas the Monzas will keep reproducing what you throw at them. Of course, this is all based on my particular examples but you only need to look at the frequency ranges in the spec sheets to see the objective differences. EQ at equality the Two10 appears to give you more bass but this is because of the huge low mids hump it is tuned to. Barfaced aimed to tune it for a vintage speaker type response and that is what you get. In reality the Monza gives you the same amount of bass but without the low mids boost and without the boominess. Of course, if you want that, you can eq it in. I use the shaping on the LMIII, or the amp character controls on my Blackstar U700 to put in the vintage sound when I need it. Really, comparing the Two10 and the Monzas is comparing chalk and cheese. They have different design objectives and both products achieve them well. I’m not much of a fretless player but my gut instinct is that the FRFR approach of LFSys would suit that application better. Others might disagree. 5 Quote
Linus27 Posted May 23 Posted May 23 3 minutes ago, Obrienp said: I’ve got a Two10 as well as the two Monzas at the moment, so I can comment on the difference up to a point. Absolute like to like comparison: same MB LM111 500 with EQ at 12 o’clock and no shaping, same gain and master settings: the Two Monza’s are louder but nothing like as boomy. The Two10 produces overpowering and slightly unpleasant boominess centred around D on the E string, or A string but extended down to the C and up to the E to a lesser extent. I am assuming this is either the cab’s resonant frequency, or my basses’. The Monza’s resonant frequency is around the low B (on a 4 string, not tried a 5) but much less pronounced, with the identical setup and instrument. The Two10 runs out of steam in the highs, whereas the Monzas will keep reproducing what you throw at them. Of course, this is all based on my particular examples but you only need to look at the frequency ranges in the spec sheets to see the objective differences. EQ at equality the Two10 appears to give you more bass but this is because of the huge low mids hump it is tuned to. Barfaced aimed to tune it for a vintage speaker type response and that is what you get. In reality the Monza gives you the same amount of bass but without the low mids boost and without the boominess. Of course, if you want that, you can eq it in. I use the shaping on the LMIII, or the amp character controls on my Blackstar U700 to put in the vintage sound when I need it. Really, comparing the Two10 and the Monzas is comparing chalk and cheese. They have different design objectives and both products achieve them well. I’m not much of a fretless player but my gut instinct is that the FRFR approach of LFSys would suit that application better. Others might disagree. That is so very very interesting as the boominess you describe is exactly the thing that drives me mad with my Two10. I've always thought of it that at certain frequencies it goes a bit mushy but boominess is more accurate. The tone can be lovely under certain frequencies but then, other frequencies, I get that boominess and the clarity vanishes. I've also noticed it running out of steam in the highs as I play quite a lot of high melodies. I am also using a LM IV 500w so not that different to you. In comparison, when I use my TC Electronic 208 and Warwick Gnome, my fretless sounds absolutely beautiful and I run that flat which is bass at 10 o'clock, mids at 2 o'clock and treble at 2 o'clock. I know they are not like for like but its closer to the tone I like. I've also used a Fender Rumble 500 v2 combo a few times and every time, my fretless sounded fabulous to the point that the band have commented mid gig and members of the audience have complimented me afterwards. So it is an interesting assessment and it does sound like an LFSys cab would really suit me. 3 Quote
Obrienp Posted May 23 Posted May 23 15 minutes ago, Linus27 said: So it is an interesting assessment and it does sound like an LFSys cab would really suit me. The best option would be to try one out. There are quite a few LFSys owners around the UK. I’m based in Norfolk, which is convenient for no one (unless you are in the neighbourhood) but someone nearer to you might be prepared to let you have a go. 1 Quote
Linus27 Posted May 23 Posted May 23 5 minutes ago, Obrienp said: The best option would be to try one out. There are quite a few LFSys owners around the UK. I’m based in Norfolk, which is convenient for no one (unless you are in the neighbourhood) but someone nearer to you might be prepared to let you have a go. Absolutely, I am sure I will come across one at some point. Sadly, Norfolk is a little far away despite visiting the Lotus factory a few times and my daughter racing at Ellough Park once a year. 1 Quote
Obrienp Posted May 23 Posted May 23 1 hour ago, JazzyB said: Two monzas stacked would make a great gigging setup for most occasions but there are always times for more 😁 Don’t give me an excuse! Fortunately, my wallet is a bit empty at the moment. I could always put my BF Two10 alongside switched to 12 ohm. My U700 could handle that (approx 2.67 ohms) but nearly all the power would go to the Monzas, or feed the DI out from the U700 to the LMIII and have both sets of speakers running at 4 ohms. Hmmm 2 Quote
tubbybloke68 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 On 23/05/2025 at 12:29, Linus27 said: Absolutely, I am sure I will come across one at some point. Sadly, Norfolk is a little far away despite visiting the Lotus factory a few times and my daughter racing at Ellough Park once a year. I’m in Horsham, West Sussex and have two Monzas if you are around my way and want to try them 😊 2 Quote
Linus27 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 3 hours ago, tubbybloke68 said: I’m in Horsham, West Sussex and have two Monzas if you are around my way and want to try them 😊 That's super kind of you, thank you. I'm in Camberley, Surrey so not far at all. When I'm closer to going for the change I'll drop you a PM. Thank you 😊 2 Quote
cetera Posted May 24 Author Posted May 24 3 hours ago, Linus27 said: That's super kind of you, thank you. I'm in Camberley, Surrey so not far at all. When I'm closer to going for the change I'll drop you a PM. Thank you 😊 I'm even closer, near Sandhurst. Send me a PM if you want to try my Monaco! 3 Quote
Linus27 Posted May 25 Posted May 25 10 hours ago, cetera said: I'm even closer, near Sandhurst. Send me a PM if you want to try my Monaco! Oh wow, that is ever better, thank you as well and will do 😊 Quote
DGBass Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) I'd like to say thanks to @stevie for allowing me to try a Goodwood cab earlier this year. I'm a bit of a brother of boom and have always been a bit heavy on the bass so The Goodwood was a real eye and ear opener for me when I got a chance to try it out. The first thing I will say is that it is insanely light. The cab I tried tipped the scales at just under 8.9kg. The footprint is also small and compact, but big enough to handle a 19" rack sized amp in portrait mode. The Goodwood also benefits from a larger 5 inch port. The earlier cabs had I believe 4 inch ports, so there is some newish magic tuning sauce going on behind the scenes with this speaker box. The build quality is also as good as it gets these days and I must admit I liked the aesthetics of the cab very much. Sound wise, what really grabbed me was the clarity of sound from the cab. There is no need for exagerrated amounts of lows, low mids or highs on amp settings anymore to try and get the right tone for the situation the cab is being used in. Set flat and then minor tweaks seemd to work best for me. It also let me hear my bass in a way I hadn't previously heard( I used a bog standard Fender Player with stainless Fender flats). I believe the cab is supposed to be quite neutral sounding, but I did feel there is a degree of natural warmth from the Celestion Neo driver being used and that was consistent with various different amp heads I tested during home use, studio use, rehearshal, and a live gig. I'm not big on class-d amplification and the only unit I had of that kind available to try with the Goodwood was an Ashdown OriginAL EVO 300 watt head I keep as a standby amp. That's about 150 watts 8 ohms with a Goodwood. Sounded great, but the Ashdown seemed to be running out of steam a little when pushed hard and the Goodwood I think would have sounded even better with a bit more class-d headroom. Oddly enough, where the sound and performance of the Goodwood excelled for me was using my older lower wattage vintage amps. A Trace Elliot GP7SM 130, a Trace Elliot GP11 MK4 AH150 and a Trace Elliot GP11 MK5 AH250. All three of these amps sounded phenomenal and much clearer, punchier, and louder than the Ashdown could manage despite much lower power outputs running at 8 ohms. Anyway, its the clarity of tone at a gig level that really surprised me. It sounds like the volume is much higher than it actually is so I found myself turning the master down thinking I was too loud. The cab also throws out a quite amazing amount of low end, and it keeps things well under control. I did a three hour gig with the cab using a TE AH250 and was worried I might blow the Goodwood up, but it worked flawlessly and coped with everything I threw at it. That also included and Ashdown ABM 600 RC. The ABM probably is just a bit too much for a Goodwood, but it sounded brilliant with careful use of the master volume and also let me hear my ABM in a new light. If i was asked to say who this cab might be an ideal purchase for, it would be a player who demands super portability, high quality sound reproduction, and a very clear almost neutral tone. Ideally, it would be used with a typical modern 500 watt light weight head that will give around 250 watts of headroom at 8 ohms. I believe that would be the sweet spot for amp power with a Goodwood. A setup like that would I think handle most pub/cafe bar/small club gigs and be super portable. Thanks again to @stevie for the opportunity to trial his new cab design. It's top drawer, the best 1x10 cab i've ever used, and quite possibly the clearest tone I've heard from my bass in a live situation. Ever. Edited May 27 by DGBass 12 Quote
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