Darkglass Anagram

[thumbo]

17 hours ago, neepheid said:

 

Another reason why these sorts of things don't appeal to me - while I fully appreciate that it's a me issue - option paralysis. WTF is a ham fisted pub playing weekend warrior like me gonna do with all these cab sims?

 

I'm better off out of it.

I don’t think you’re alone with this, I can barely choose a can of beans in the supermarket if there’s more than one option. 6 mic options, 6 placement options and 20+ cabs… I’d be there all day! 

[paulmcnamara]

They seem to be selling like hot cakes....... Most suppliers are waiting for new stock. Last night Gear4music had 5 in stock..... all gone by late this morning!

[tayste_2000]

🤞for some open box discounts soon

[Greg Edwards69]

I saw this in a youtube comments section. Gave me a laugh.

 

[krispn]

2 hours ago, Greg Edwards69 said:

I saw this in a youtube comments section. Gave me a laugh.

 

 It’s all me, me, me with these guitarists😀

[2pods]

is this really just a cut down Quad Cortex for bass players ?

 

I'm just wondering if it's worth it along with an already purchased QC ?

[MrDinsdale]

2 hours ago, 2pods said:

is this really just a cut down Quad Cortex for bass players ?

 

I'm just wondering if it's worth it along with an already purchased QC ?

If you want a smaller footprint, you're a fan of Darkglass pedals, and you don't mind having a single FX loop and fewer switches, it has the potential to be a pretty compelling alternative. If Darkglass can broaden the range of amps and effects, get Bluetooth working and maybe provide a user-friendly capture method, it would be an easy sell for bassists. I'm glad it's here as it might get Neural to up their game a little.

It's a cool-looking unit with a bunch of potential but I'd suggest hanging around and seeing what it looks like after the next patch or two.

[tayste_2000]

2 hours ago, 2pods said:

is this really just a cut down Quad Cortex for bass players ?

 

I'm just wondering if it's worth it along with an already purchased QC ?

 

I’d say probably not worth having both, if you find your QC is under utilised (you hardly use the 8 footswitches, or you constantly wish it was smaller, or it’s just doing a little bit of processing on an already busy board) then it could be a good option to downsize the footprint.

 

Else you’ve got two wildly different Capture ecosystems and workflows, personally I’d find that quite annoying but YMMV.

[Rollin Thunder]

6 hours ago, krispn said:

 It’s all me, me, me with these guitarists😀

Welcome to our world where the likes if Helix stomp etc only give token updates to bass, (although i love my stomp)

[Kev]

8 hours ago, 2pods said:

is this really just a cut down Quad Cortex for bass players ?

 

I'm just wondering if it's worth it along with an already purchased QC ?

FOMO is strong with this one, but i echo that running both wouldn't really be a great solution to get behind.  Cutting down to it could be anytime option, but don't know what the used market is like for QCs.  I'd want a good chunk of money spare at the end of it.

[tayste_2000]

31 minutes ago, Kev said:

FOMO is strong with this one, but i echo that running both wouldn't really be a great solution to get behind.  Cutting down to it could be anytime option, but don't know what the used market is like for QCs.  I'd want a good chunk of money spare at the end of it.

 

QC’s go for £1100 - £1200 I find second hand, the sweetener is how much extra stuff can you get for that like a DC7 and Solo 18. But you will get the occasional £900 bargain.

 

I ended up going open box because I wanted the warranty on something so expensive and the ability to send it back but some of the deals I saw were near new price.

 

If you can list in a dip in supply when Thomann and Guitar Guitar don’t have any in stock you can really ask a premium.

 

I’m looking forward to these Anagrams cropping up for 600-700, that’s a real sweet spot for something so powerful.

[Greg Edwards69]

Ian Martin Allison has just put a lengthy video (and interview) together on Instagram that's worth a watch.

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJDOZ1jO_wW/

 

I was hoping he was going to weigh in on the Anagram. I've been a Helix user for years, and his presets are the only ones I've ever paid for, so I was intrigued to see what he could do with the Anagram. Usefully, he's recreated some of his Helix presets on the Anagram.

[2pods]

I'm reasonably happy with my QC

(a limited black and gold edition, but only because Andertons had it for a good price and there were none of the usual grey ones), and don't think I will be bothering with the Anagram, but you never know 

 

Still interested in how it will develop though.

 

[tayste_2000]

5 hours ago, Greg Edwards69 said:

Ian Martin Allison has just put a lengthy video (and interview) together on Instagram that's worth a watch.

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJDOZ1jO_wW/

 

I was hoping he was going to weigh in on the Anagram. I've been a Helix user for years, and his presets are the only ones I've ever paid for, so I was intrigued to see what he could do with the Anagram. Usefully, he's recreated some of his Helix presets on the Anagram.

If I wasn’t sold before 😂 I sure as hell am now

[attackbass]

Very tempting this Anagram. 

 

I use very little of the QC processing and use it mainly for effects but live in the hope that parallax gets ported into it soon

 

The Anagram is perfect for my needs but I have a QC and don't think I cam be bothered with the effort of selling the QC to a guitarist!

[Russ]

Still seriously contemplating getting one. I figure I can create a NAM model of my current main tone from my Zoom gear as a starting point, and go from there!

 

What would be a good, small expression pedal to use with one of these? Something that would go well with the unit's small footprint? 

[krispn]

3 hours ago, Russ said:

Still seriously contemplating getting one. I figure I can create a NAM model of my current main tone from my Zoom gear as a starting point, and go from there!

 

What would be a good, small expression pedal to use with one of these? Something that would go well with the unit's small footprint? 

Dunlop do a mini expression pedal but I’m not sure you’d get the same sweet silver finish. 

[Greg Edwards69]

How about the Mooer Expline?

 

plenty of other do mini expression pedals too, check out Hotone, sonicake, Dod, valeton

[Tripehound]

Following this with interest - currently using a Kemper Stage and this looks easier to change on the fly in a combat situation...

[tauzero]

I wonder how much of an advance it is over the MOD Dwarf - same designer, after all (see from 2:45 or so).

 

 

[LukeFRC]

49 minutes ago, tauzero said:

I wonder how much of an advance it is over the MOD Dwarf - same designer, after all (see from 2:45 or so).

see... that's interesting... thats the thing where it's building on something new and you can have a reasonable assumption that it's not going to end up not being developed on

[attackbass]

Very much considering selling my QC, if I can get the right price.

 

I use a patch with a compressor, drive, delay and a phaser for most live stuff I do and then a patch that I use fro practice. It does seem crazy to me that I'm using so little of its potential.

 

It does sound amazing though but I watched the IMA video and some of the things he mentioned were things I felt about the QC.

[tayste_2000]

2 hours ago, attackbass said:

Very much considering selling my QC, if I can get the right price.

 

I use a patch with a compressor, drive, delay and a phaser for most live stuff I do and then a patch that I use fro practice. It does seem crazy to me that I'm using so little of its potential.

 

It does sound amazing though but I watched the IMA video and some of the things he mentioned were things I felt about the QC.

 

Anagram doesn’t have a phaser currently, just an FYI

[Kev]

2 hours ago, attackbass said:

Very much considering selling my QC, if I can get the right price.

 

I use a patch with a compressor, drive, delay and a phaser for most live stuff I do and then a patch that I use fro practice. It does seem crazy to me that I'm using so little of its potential.

 

It does sound amazing though but I watched the IMA video and some of the things he mentioned were things I felt about the QC.

 

So would the exercise be a way of getting some cash back but maintaining functionality you need, or are you looking for something else from the Anagram?

 

I've snapped back to my senses somewhat and realised that the QC does everything I need and risking a switch to a lesser unit on the basis of its size and bass specificness would be a bit of a risk.  I'd definitely buy the Anagram out of the two if I didn't have the QC, but i've not seen anything yet that would justify a switch.  I'm more just frustrated at the lack of bass focus with the QC.

[tayste_2000]

40 minutes ago, Kev said:

 

So would the exercise be a way of getting some cash back but maintaining functionality you need, or are you looking for something else from the Anagram?

 

I've snapped back to my senses somewhat and realised that the QC does everything I need and risking a switch to a lesser unit on the basis of its size and bass specificness would be a bit of a risk.  I'd definitely buy the Anagram out of the two if I didn't have the QC, but i've not seen anything yet that would justify a switch.  I'm more just frustrated at the lack of bass focus with the QC.

 

I’d echo some of Kev’s sentiments, at least to the point of waiting for some used Anagrams to popup. If you could get £1100-£1200 for the QC and then could pickup an Anagram closer to £700, that’s a decent chunk of change to free up. If you’re paying the £899, as much as I disliked many elements of the QC I’d say it’s not worth it.