SteveXFR Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I've got a fairly minimal pedal board and I'd like to add in a clean bypass to allow me to blend some clean signal with the distorted signal. What would be the best way to achieve this with the ability to adjust the amount of clean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 External blending is fraught with phase problems. Best avoided by using pedals with their own clean blend. Ā Afaik all distortions produce a phase reversed signal, no problem until you blend and your mids come over all muddy. Ā There are blender pedals like One Control that haveĀ a phase switch. Fine for one pedal but not for multiples unless you always use the same set. Ā Then there are multi channel blenders like the ones from a Canadian outfit whose name escapes me. They make the Attack Goat, the only pedal I would like to try solely because it has the best name for a bass distortion ever. Multi channels lets you have 180Ā° control over each which is far far better than none at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) EHX switchblade pro. Ā I got one for exactly this and it is killer. Edited February 28, 2023 by lidl e 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I agree @Downunderwonder, Attack Goat has to be the best name for a pedal that Iāve heard of to date, canāt think of anything that would top that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I started a similar thread a frw weeks back and thats why i got the ehx Ā Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Boss LS2. Ā On my big board I have 2 of them. Amazing things.Ā 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee650 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 5 hours ago, fretmeister said: Boss LS2. Ā On my big board I have 2 of them. Amazing things.Ā Yep, +1 singularly the most useful pedal you'll ever own! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodang Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I have a much simpler and cheaper setup. One of theseĀ https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255992453701 And one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266100485406 Works great šĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, BreadBin said: I have a much simpler and cheaper setup. One of theseĀ https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255992453701 And one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266100485406 Works great šĀ Ā That is cheap and simple. Just the job! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodang Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 3 hours ago, BreadBin said: I have a much simpler and cheaper setup. One of theseĀ https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255992453701 And one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266100485406 Works great šĀ No phase switch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 39 minutes ago, Boodang said: No phase switch! I haven't needed one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GremlinAndy Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) This does have a phase switchā¦ https://www.brightonion.co.uk/blender-looper/?sku=bopblend1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI87Djuby5_QIVRe7tCh3w7QskEAQYAyABEgIZlvD_BwE Ā£70 plus vat. Ā Ā Ā But tbh, the boss LS2 is a great pedal to have to hand just because itās quite versatile. Ā I waited until one came up cheap on eBay, Ā within driving distance. Ā I set a search and found one for ācollection onlyā , Ā which limits the amount of buyers, and got it for around Ā£45. Ā (A couple of years ago admittedly). Ā Ā They seem to hold value at around Ā£65 or more so it doesnāt hurt to have one kicking around. Edited March 1, 2023 by GremlinAndy Updated info. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodang Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 hours ago, BreadBin said: I haven't needed one ...yet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodang Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, GremlinAndy said: https://www.brightonion.co.uk/blender-looper/?sku=bopblend1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI87Djuby5_QIVRe7tCh3w7QskEAQYAyABEgIZlvD_BwE Ā£70 plus vat. Ā Ā ...oh, it has a phase switch, how handy is that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GremlinAndy Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, Boodang said: ...yet! Yeah. Ā I found most combinations of pedals have been ok. Ā Ā However thereās been a couple of times where Iāve been struggling to get a sound to blend well. Ā Everything just falls out the bottom as you mix the two sounds.. Ā Then you hit the phase switch and hey presto, that was the problem all along. Ā You donāt miss it until you need it, and then you understand why it was an important option. Ā Ā (Iām using a gig-rig āwetter boxā for loop blending duty. Ā Great, but not cheap) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linear Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 There's another potential phase issue aside from polarity inversion: if you have any digital pedals in the effected chain they will add a slight delay to the signal which will result in comb filtering when blended back with your dry signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I'd just make up a phase switch cable. It's not hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 7 hours ago, BreadBin said: I haven't needed one There's two kinds of bassists who all use distortion / overdrive in various degrees. Ā Those whose tone includes a significant amount of clean mids who will easily hear when a phase correction is in order and have opted for said correction. Ā The rest. I suspect many of this group have never A/B trialled a phase correction to their clean blend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 6 hours ago, GremlinAndy said: This does have a phase switchā¦ https://www.brightonion.co.uk/blender-looper/?sku=bopblend1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI87Djuby5_QIVRe7tCh3w7QskEAQYAyABEgIZlvD_BwE Ā£70 plus vat. Ā Ā Ā But tbh, the boss LS2 is a great pedal to have to hand just because itās quite versatile. Ā I waited until one came up cheap on eBay, Ā within driving distance. Ā I set a search and found one for ācollection onlyā , Ā which limits the amount of buyers, and got it for around Ā£45. Ā (A couple of years ago admittedly). Ā Ā They seem to hold value at around Ā£65 or more so it doesnāt hurt to have one kicking around. Ā It comes in a choice of colours as well! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Downunderwonder said: There's two kinds of bassists who all use distortion / overdrive in various degrees. Ā Those whose tone includes a significant amount of clean mids who will easily hear when a phase correction is in order and have opted for said correction. Ā The rest. I suspect many of this group have never A/B trialled a phase correction to their clean blend. I have 4 different drive options on my board. I guess I've just been lucky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodang Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 hours ago, SteveXFR said: Ā It comes in a choice of colours as well! With bright onion you can choose the colour of the pedal, the writing and each led. Awesome pedals. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Bisby Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Lazy bear blender š has phase switch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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