police squad Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Steve Browning said: I have the good fortune to play with Clive. A very fine player indeed. isn't he just. Who do you play with, with Clive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Browning Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 A band called the SharpeeZ and Full House, Frankie Miller's old band. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
police squad Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 12 hours ago, Steve Browning said: A band called the SharpeeZ and Full House, Frankie Miller's old band. Yep, I've seen the SharpeeZ but not for a good few years. I'll keep my eyes peeled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I'm sure there's plenty of people (like me) that adore Strangers In The Night but have little data on the source material. I dipped in UFO again a few days ago; just cherrypicking the studio versions of stuff I know from the live album. Really couldn't get past how weak/underwhelming the studio versions sounded by comparison. I'm more than content with Strangers... and the deluxe version of it. I'll stick with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, NancyJohnson said: I'm sure there's plenty of people (like me) that adore Strangers In The Night but have little data on the source material. I dipped in UFO again a few days ago; just cherrypicking the studio versions of stuff I know from the live album. Really couldn't get past how weak/underwhelming the studio versions sounded by comparison. I'm more than content with Strangers... and the deluxe version of it. I'll stick with that. The studio versions have their own charm but almost sound like demos at times, although the songs themselves are still great. UFO are one of the few bands where the live versions are so much better to the point of representing the definitive versions 👍 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Beedster said: The studio versions have their own charm but almost sound like demos at times, although the songs themselves are still great. UFO are one of the few bands where the live versions are so much better to the point of representing the definitive versions 👍 Maybe that's why their record sales were never particularly high, but they managed to do big gigs and tours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeyboro Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, MacDaddy said: Maybe that's why their record sales were never particularly high, but they managed to do big gigs and tours? The Frampton Comes Alive effect! Man, nearer to home, were similar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_m Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Sparking lots of memories, this thread! Doctor Doctor and Lights Out were integral parts of the soundtrack to our regular Friday night post-pub cards sessions 30 or more years ago. Happy / hazy days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Beedster said: The studio versions have their own charm but almost sound like demos at times, although the songs themselves are still great. UFO are one of the few bands where the live versions are so much better to the point of representing the definitive versions 👍 My first proper/formal exposure to many bands I followed in the late 70s/80s was through live albums...All The World's A Stage, Alive & Dangerous, Strangers In The Night, Cheap Trick At Budokan, Aerosmith's Live! Bootleg, Kiss Alive!*; when you visit the studio albums the content on these are, very much as you say, like demos. I'd also counter that these live albums probably came too early in their careers, three studio albums followed by a double live album? Too early. *Not strictly live. I'm a bit fuggy at the moment...I don't seem to be writing properly, so if I meander here, apologies. There's a load of bands I follow who didn't put out live albums of any sort until some years had passed since the first album or two; I'd cite Living Colour, a band I've adored since my initial flirtation with them pre-Vivid. The albums were all pretty strong from a production perspective - and bootlegs aside - when the inevitable live album dropped, it didn't have the same impact as the back catalogue which was almost etched into my psyche, if that makes sense. It complemented the catalogue rather than it being a highpoint/epoch making). Visiting the UFO studio recordings following my exposure to Strangers... will never have the same impact. Same goes early Kiss/Rush/Aerosmith. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 7 hours ago, NancyJohnson said: My first proper/formal exposure to many bands I followed in the late 70s/80s was through live albums...All The World's A Stage, Alive & Dangerous, Strangers In The Night, Cheap Trick At Budokan, Aerosmith's Live! Bootleg, Kiss Alive!*; when you visit the studio albums the content on these are, very much as you say, like demos. I'd also counter that these live albums probably came too early in their careers, three studio albums followed by a double live album? Too early. *Not strictly live. I'm a bit fuggy at the moment...I don't seem to be writing properly, so if I meander here, apologies. There's a load of bands I follow who didn't put out live albums of any sort until some years had passed since the first album or two; I'd cite Living Colour, a band I've adored since my initial flirtation with them pre-Vivid. The albums were all pretty strong from a production perspective - and bootlegs aside - when the inevitable live album dropped, it didn't have the same impact as the back catalogue which was almost etched into my psyche, if that makes sense. It complemented the catalogue rather than it being a highpoint/epoch making). Visiting the UFO studio recordings following my exposure to Strangers... will never have the same impact. Same goes early Kiss/Rush/Aerosmith. Great post, completely agree with all of those example, although I suspect the * could be applied to more than Kiss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 I remember a piece about them taking the US by storm in the NME (or possibly Sounds, even MM) in the late 70's, with the below picture and the caption "British rock band UFO entering US Customs". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 Doubt this is to everyone's taste but I remember the first time I watched the film simply not being able to work out where I knew the song from. It's an interesting cover, shows what a great song it is, and for 2002 it's a little ahead of it's time given that pretty much every cover of a great 70's song these days seems to be in the acoustic guitar/fragile female vocal space 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Beedster said: Great post, completely agree with all of those example, although I suspect the * could be applied to more than Kiss Feeling a little straighter now. I was having a very heavy work morning and stressing a bit. I was almost at the point where I was about to shut down without some kind of distraction. ☹️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 08/10/2022 at 18:38, MacDaddy said: Billy Sheehan was in UFO in 1983 but only as a touring member. It would be interesting to hear live recordings from that tour. Maybe, but not necessarily in a good way! They were imploding at the time and were struggling to keep it together live, leading to Sheehan leaving halfway through the tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 14 hours ago, Beedster said: The studio versions have their own charm but almost sound like demos at times, although the songs themselves are still great. UFO are one of the few bands where the live versions are so much better to the point of representing the definitive versions 👍 Very much so. I saw them with Paul Chapman many times and they just dripped attitude and a down at heel coolness, but were very musical at the same time! When they were on, they were a great live band... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 09/10/2022 at 16:38, police squad said: I saw a band last night, had Clive Edwards on drums. He played in UFO for a few years. My favourite drummer at the moment. Such feel and groove (Rhino was on bass too, it was marvellous) Also saw Pete Way's band a few years ago. Clive on drums again and Lawrence Archer on guitar, another excellent evening Was that Terry Sless' Kossof tribute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
police squad Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 8 hours ago, peteb said: Was that Terry Sless' Kossof tribute? yes, it was unbelievably good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tut Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 22:03, Steve Browning said: A band called the SharpeeZ and Full House, Frankie Miller's old band. I’m sure we (stray) we’re on the same bill as you somewhere not so long ago. You were the main act. Can’t for the life of me think where! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Browning Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Colne maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 12 hours ago, police squad said: yes, it was unbelievably good I saw them a few months ago with my guitarist from the Zep tribute (who knows Sless a bit). I was doing the usual checking out the bass player bit (trying to see if he was playing The Stealer like I do), but was being a bit too obvious about it! They took a break and Rhino marched over to me and said "you look like you know what you're doing, what did the bass sound like out there". I just said that appearances can be deceptive, but it sounded fine to me. My guitarist mate thought it was was pretty cool / amusing...! Rhino is surprisingly tall, where the rest of the band are all on the diminutive side! It was an enjoyable night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tut Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Steve Browning said: Colne maybe? No i remember now - I think it was a blues festival in Devon or Cornwall, we were playing as 'Del Bromham's Blues Devils'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
police squad Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 11 hours ago, peteb said: I saw them a few months ago with my guitarist from the Zep tribute (who knows Sless a bit). I was doing the usual checking out the bass player bit (trying to see if he was playing The Stealer like I do), but was being a bit too obvious about it! They took a break and Rhino marched over to me and said "you look like you know what you're doing, what did the bass sound like out there". I just said that appearances can be deceptive, but it sounded fine to me. My guitarist mate thought it was was pretty cool / amusing...! Rhino is surprisingly tall, where the rest of the band are all on the diminutive side! It was an enjoyable night. and he has big hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkpegasus4001 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 This is my favourite UFO track. I love the guitar solo in this by Paul 'Tonka' Chapman and the bass intro. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Riva Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 24 minutes ago, clarkpegasus4001 said: This is my favourite UFO track. I love the guitar solo in this by Paul 'Tonka' Chapman and the bass intro. I seem to recall once reading/hearing that the same person was responsible for both the bass intro and the guitar solo! Tonka was also frustrated that George Martin faded quite a bit of the end solo out - never argue with the legendary Mr Martin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkpegasus4001 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Old Man Riva said: I seem to recall once reading/hearing that the same person was responsible for both the bass intro and the guitar solo! Tonka was also frustrated that George Martin faded quite a bit of the end solo out - never argue with the legendary Mr Martin! Really? I didnt know that. I've always loved that solo at the end. I was lucky enough to see them with Tonka. He surprised me how good he was tbh and how well he played Schenker's solos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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