bassist_lewis Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 22 hours ago, Quatschmacher said: There’s an Octabvre III here but note, it looks like it’s the one that sold on a Facebook group on Thursday for £220 with the recipient trying to flip it for £500! https://reverb.com/uk/item/52045457-3leaf-audio-octavbre-mkiii-2020 @Onox, @danweb22, @SumOne, @iamtheelvy, @Owno Listing ended 😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, bassist_lewis said: Listing ended 😐 Wonder if someone bought it or if the seller rethought his strategy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumOne Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 15 hours ago, Quatschmacher said: Wonder if someone bought it or if the seller rethought his strategy. Or the Damien Hurst school of economics - buy your own stuff for inflated prices to set a benchmark inflated value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, SumOne said: Or the Damien Hurst school of economics - buy your own stuff for inflated prices to set a benchmark inflated value. I could test your theory out by listing mine for £500 and seeing what happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumOne Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said: I could test your theory out by listing mine for £500 and seeing what happens. Worth a try! I guess the flaw in buying your own things from ebay or Reverb to inflate the prices is that you'd need to pay seller fees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, SumOne said: Worth a try! I guess the flaw in buying your own things from ebay or Reverb to inflate the prices is that you'd need to pay seller fees. Transactions can be undone though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiralchew Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 For those interested, there’s a Doom 2 on Reverb. UK based. No affiliation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunion Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, admiralchew said: For those interested, there’s a Doom 2 on Reverb. UK based. No affiliation. There’s one for sale at Bass Bros Too along with an Octabvre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiralchew Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 31 minutes ago, admiralchew said: For those interested, there’s a Doom 2 on Reverb. UK based. No affiliation. And gone! I’m not surprised. I never see them. Especially not with all of the letters. Mine has the awkward “We come to your Doom” lettering now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, Bunion said: There’s one for sale at Bass Bros Too along with an Octabvre That’s the same seller as the reverb listing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunion Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said: That’s the same seller as the reverb listing. Ahh ok, I don’t often go on reverb, I happened to notice them on bass Bros though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiralchew Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Just now, Bunion said: Ahh ok, I don’t often go on reverb, I happened to notice them on bass Bros though That’s great; I somehow didn’t know about Bass Bros so thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunion Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Always worth looking on Bass Bros site if he’s advertising on reverb it’s often cheaper due to lack of fees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunion Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 minute ago, admiralchew said: That’s great; I somehow didn’t know about Bass Bros so thanks! Will the guy that I’ve dealt with is a lovely guy, great bass player and always ready to help any way he can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiralchew Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Not exactly on topic but, if high-quality boutique north-western US pedals are your thing, Iron Ether is taking pre-orders for the Xerograph Deluxe. Apologies to the mods if this is not the appropriate place and contravenes a rule. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Over $300 now and a 4 month wait, 100% payment up front? It's an odd shift in what has been a rather odd business model the company has had in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiralchew Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 I think that’s just a sign of how difficult it is for the boutique guys. It’s a similar thing to 3Leaf and Sushibox too. I don’t mind if it means they keep making pedals but I know it won’t suit everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo m Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Hello... Earlier in this thread I mentioned I had the opportunity to buy a "Iron Either Xerograph Deluxe" & it had the latest design..... For myself it was more a Synth Based Pedal than an Envelope Follower' even tho it does both Very very well.. I stayed with my GR2. Question.. "Just which of Spencer Doren's 3 Leaf Pedals are considered to be the most Coverted..???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassist_lewis Posted April 17, 2022 Author Share Posted April 17, 2022 8 hours ago, admiralchew said: Not exactly on topic but, if high-quality boutique north-western US pedals are your thing, Iron Ether is taking pre-orders for the Xerograph Deluxe. Apologies to the mods if this is not the appropriate place and contravenes a rule. I'm guessing they've all been sold already coz I can't find an option to buy one 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Yeah it's gone now. Much as these guys need support, given how many pedal builders are just disappearing right now, paying up front for a pedal with a 4 month lead is a hell of a risk to take. Yet people are clearly taking it... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Kev said: Yeah it's gone now. Much as these guys need support, given how many pedal builders are just disappearing right now, paying up front for a pedal with a 4 month lead is a hell of a risk to take. Yet people are clearly taking it... Just pay by PayPal. Full refund if seller doesn't deliver. Job done and risk largely disappears. Edited April 17, 2022 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassist_lewis Posted April 17, 2022 Author Share Posted April 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Kev said: Yeah it's gone now. Much as these guys need support, given how many pedal builders are just disappearing right now, paying up front for a pedal with a 4 month lead is a hell of a risk to take. Yet people are clearly taking it... From the builder's perspective, they're taking a big risk to buy parts and spend time building without any certainty that they're going to sell. My understanding is that independent builders are working on pretty low profit margins, despite the price per unit, and from what I've heard/read that's the case across the board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, bassist_lewis said: From the builder's perspective, they're taking a big risk to buy parts and spend time building without any certainty that they're going to sell. My understanding is that independent builders are working on pretty low profit margins, despite the price per unit, and from what I've heard/read that's the case across the board. They’re simply asking the buyers to fund the upfront costs because for some reason they have a cash flow problem. Once the parts are bought and the pedals are made they’ll sell alright. Pretty standard practice but I’m surprised an established builder needs to do that, although maybe it goes to show just how small the operation is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Just pay by PayPal. Full refund if seller doesn't deliver. Job done and risk largely disappears. After 4 months? I thought the money back guarantee was shorter than that to be honest? Even so, I don't understand why they need 4 months. No cash flow issue as they have it all from the preorder sales, unless the cash is paying for something else... And thats the worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, bassist_lewis said: From the builder's perspective, they're taking a big risk to buy parts and spend time building without any certainty that they're going to sell. My understanding is that independent builders are working on pretty low profit margins, despite the price per unit, and from what I've heard/read that's the case across the board. If you've followed Iron Ether over the past two years, any stock builds he puts up disappear. Instantly. Even this preorder was gone in hours. I can't see worrying about sales is the issue. If he can't afford to buy parts in for a few pedals, it's a bit concerning isn't it? 🤷♂️ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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