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2 hours ago, Al Krow said:

Interested as to what you mean by a direct clone? Did MXR steal the chip design and algorithms? If not, they've clearly done a very decent job (obviously at a significantly higher price point), but... 

You'd think that Boss might know a thing or two about their own product range, and almost certainly more so than any rivals? 😊

You’d need to ask Janek - he loaned Dunlop his OC-2 while they did the development work. My guess is they studied the components and did oscilloscope tests to compare the sounds.

I wouldn’t always trust a company to know their own products - Selmer famously lost the blueprints to their beloved Mark VI saxes so that when they made the Reference series in the 2000s they had to track down good examples and reverse engineer the shape and metallurgy!

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6 hours ago, Al Krow said:

I know several of you like to hear clips - so here's a couple from me:

- the first in 'classic OC-2' mode with just -1 oct max, vintage setting, finger 

- second (same riff) in more 'Royal Blood' mode with a bit of clean (3.5/10), +1 oct (5/10), -1 oct (max), poly setting - full range, pick into VTDI set for dirt.

In conclusion the OC-5 seems to give us both the OC-2 and the OC-3 with improved tracking for both and throws in an octave up. What's not to like? Definitely looking like a keeper!

OC-2 'classic'.wav 4.24 MB · 17 downloads OC-5 'RB'.wav 4.38 MB · 16 downloads

Nice demos Bas!

I love the 2nd one, like a dirty organ sound😁

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On 03/05/2021 at 18:13, Hellzero said:

And I love the Poly mode too as I can almost emulate an old Hammond B3. It's just missing the background noise and Leslie, but it's great sounding for some Indian music à la Trilok Gurtu with Jonas Hellborg.

@lee650 - cheers mate. Seems like Hellzero has already been dialling in the same!

I'm a fan of Poly mode too  - unquestionably better tracking, which is a key for me, and also cleaner. So for the three settings I would most likely have this on: 

Classic OC-2: Vintage mode

Budget Royal Blood / Hammond B3: Poly mode

Clean Octave - thickening**: Poly mode

**Dry 5/10,  +1 Oct min, -1 Oct max, Range max

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Haven't compared side to side with my Octavbre mini yet, but tried on guitar. Annoyingly the range to set the lower octave on lowest notes also controls the upper octave. In an ideal world it would leave the upper octave intact and only control the lower. If you had this on guitar setting, and on bass setting had the reverse (only add lower octave on higher notes, upper on all) it would be a great improvement for me. I'll continue exploring it 🙂

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59 minutes ago, Jonathan Bee said:

...If you had this on guitar setting, and on bass setting had the reverse (only add lower octave on higher notes, upper on all) it would be a great improvement for me. I'll continue exploring it 🙂

I completely agree! Been banging on about this for ages but folk point out that this and the OC-3 have been primarily geared at the larger guitar market - I guess that's fair enough.

The clever trick would be for the bass switch to simultaneously reverse the range cut out as you suggest...Boss if you're listening, make our bass players' day! Go on, you know you can do it: if you can invent a SY-1 this isn't really going to be that hard 😁

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3 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

OK, I think I need one of these after trying one earlier this week. 

Tbf I probably need an FI having seen the amazing stuff of what you've done on V3.60! I clearly got my FIs too soon i.e. before you managed to work your magic on it turning it from a PITA to something sooooo much better.

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57 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

Tbf I probably need an FI having seen the amazing stuff of what you've done on V3.60! I clearly got my FIs too soon i.e. before you managed to work your magic on it turning it from a PITA to something sooooo much better.

Thanks. Sometimes these things take time. Remember Panda is literally Andras doing firmware and Zsolt doing the editor and both do lots of other work. 
 

On the plus side, you can now buy another used FI for way less than you sold your other ones. 

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2 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

Thanks. Sometimes these things take time. Remember Panda is literally Andras doing firmware and Zsolt doing the editor and both do lots of other work. 

On the plus side, you can now buy another used FI for way less than you sold your other ones. 

I hadn't realised that Andras was also the brains behind the original Deep Impact. 

Yup prices are coming down, you can get a new one for around £265 (allowing for forex) and a Roland UM-One Mk2 and you're good to go. 

I may just wait for V4 and new hardware to come out next year. After all if Damnation Audio can provide a more compact version of their classic MBD1, and GisserD has already shown it can be easily done.

Anyway back to OC-5s.... 

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3 hours ago, Al Krow said:

I hadn't realised that Andras was also the brains behind the original Deep Impact.

Yes, he invented it and it was released by Akai. There are obviously things which have been carried over, such as the form factor and hardware controls.

3 hours ago, Al Krow said:

I may just wait for V4 and new hardware to come out next year.

That’s a pipe dream at this point. If you really want to hasten any potential development process then buying what’s currently available is the best way to support the company so that there’s capital to invest in future products.

3 hours ago, Al Krow said:

Anyway back to OC-5s.... 

OK. We can always discuss the above on the FI thread. 

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