Happy Jack Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 You get me a gig at the Royal Festival Hall and I promise I'll use the controls on my bass wisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueno Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 [quote name='Highfox' timestamp='1499168333' post='3329625'] I guess if those are the only kinds of audience you ever play to, you might be right [/quote] I've also played to chin-stroking gearheads and I don't think they notice either... at least they never said anything. Actually, talking to other bass players post-gig is usually a good laugh... but maybe that's a topic for another day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasMooseblaster Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) [quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1499098325' post='3329152'] No it isn't - it's cheaper, that's why Leo changed from stacked pots. [/quote] That reminds me - which is easier to wire, if I have two humbuckers on a bass and want to include a coil tap? Or are VVT and VBT much the same if I just put a push/pull for the tap in the tone control? (Edit: sorry, just to be clear: the bass currently has master vol, master tone, and a six-way switch; but I want more control over the blend of the pickups so I'm thinking of performing a bit of surgery!) Edited July 4, 2017 by EliasMooseblaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_c2 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Personally I don't think there's any benefits (of VVT) but its the simplest wiring on a Jazz bass with passive pickups and I'm used to it. I am glad its possible to adjust the two pickups' outputs finely and never quite understood why a Fender Strat has the more restrictive selector switch which only allows 100/0, 50/50 or 0/100 of each of the adjacent pickup pairs. (No doubt there is some aftermarket wiring mod available for strats to give VVVT control). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1499165943' post='3329607'] But nobody except you will ever notice ... [/quote] That's no excuse, you're just trying to come up with things to justify your opinion. Everybody knows that the bassplayer can leave the stage mid-song to go to the bathroom or have a pint and nobody will notice, not even the rest of the band... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueno Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 [quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1499180477' post='3329753'] That's no excuse, you're just trying to come up with things to justify your opinion. Everybody knows that the bassplayer can leave the stage mid-song to go to the bathroom or have a pint and nobody will notice, not even the rest of the band... [/quote] Aaahhh! Reminds me of the good old gigs in the 70s. Them were the days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I thought this was going to be a thread about variable valve timing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobiewharton Posted July 8, 2017 Author Share Posted July 8, 2017 Cheers for the responses all. Tobie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorR Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1499165943' post='3329607'] But nobody except you will ever notice ... [/quote] Exactly! And therefore the most important will be pleased so it's 100% worth bothering with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 I always felt it was a pain in the ass, juggling with two volumes live. I bought a VBT setup from the excellent Mr Ki0gon and have never looked back. I have no idea why Fender doesn't have this setup as standard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 If you use a blend make sure it's an 'MN' blend. That way at the centre each pickup is at 100% Other blend pots may give you each pickup at 50% at the midway position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1499164083' post='3329585'] Why on earth would you touch the controls on a bass? Set and forget, guys, set and forget. [/quote] By law a bass should just have a single humbucker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorR Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 [quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1499098325' post='3329152'] No it isn't - it's cheaper, that's why Leo changed from stacked pots. Not if you use the right blend pot. [/quote] [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1499690496' post='3332942'] If you use a blend make sure it's an 'MN' blend. That way at the centre each pickup is at 100% Other blend pots may give you each pickup at 50% at the midway position [/quote] KiOgon, do tell. I was always told there was also some problem with the pickups loading each other and reacting oddly if you had a passive blend loom so they need to be buffered from each other... I think Chris May made a similar comment in an SBL video once too. Anyhoo, as I recall that's what some tech type told me once but to be fair it was many many moons ago. Grateful if you can explain how it works in practice. All way beyond by electrical knowledge!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_c2 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Wouldn't both pickups at 50% be the correct thing? The reasoning being that 2x 50% = 100% volume, and you'd WANT the blended sound to be the same volume as either pickup on its own, not twice the volume. Thus, the blend is a blend control, the volume is a volume control and the tone is a tone control. If the blend was 100%x2 pickups, then it would be a blend AND volume control, and you'd need to adjust the volume control to compensate, thus negating the actual advantage of VBT? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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