taha_never Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Hello. has anyone put these on a roger waters P? does the neck resist the tension? previously i had a set of 45-100 installed on it. strung it with these 50-105s last night but the action and relief scared me a bit. set it up to taste but i'm worried about future neck wrap around the rod, or truss rod nut breakage, squeezed wood, etc. please share your experience with me. i will appreciate that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'm sure it's just a case of tweaking the truss rod, but when I tried Chromes I found the tension so alarming I immediately took them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taha_never Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 yes i forgot to mention that i took mine off too and went back to those old 45-100s! i did achieve the desired relief and action with the 50-105s on but i was not sure what would happen to my neck in the future during time...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 If the truss rod is adjusted appropriately then there should not be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I put a set of those fender flats with the green silks on a bass once ages ago and you could have shot arrows with the bass afterwards Action went to about an inch off the fretboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I've used those green silk highly tense Fender flats. That's what the truss rod is for. Or for adjusting the other way if they are low tension strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia Bluejay Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Not sure what the problem is here - Chromes are extremely low tension, while Fenders are stiff as steel rods. Any bass neck will be able to cope with either and anything in between, if set up correctly: not just the truss rod but also the saddle height for the action and, if you're a lucky Warwick owner, the nut height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I`ve used this gauge on a regular Precision and yes, had to tweak the truss rod, but not to max, it was fine, just a quarter of a turn I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowieBass Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I've got Fender flats on two basses, one a Squier VM P and the other a Cort B4FL with a neck as skinny as a Jazz and it's been no bother with either of them; didn't need to tweak the truss rod much to get the relief I was after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taha_never Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 thank you all for your answers. and how about the duration? will my bass get harmed during time with the heavy strings on it? neck warp along its longitude axis, wood squash under the truss rod nut, and other problems. ever happened to anyone using MIM basses strung with 50-150 and above flatwounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorbass Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 No problem. I've had LaBella Jamersons on a 50s Precision, just some truss rod tweaking and a bit of a set up needed. Wont harm it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 [quote name='Yawn_Blah' timestamp='1450094050' post='2929455'] ... will my bass get harmed during time with the heavy strings on it? ... [/quote] If heavy gauge flatwounds harm the bass when the trussrod is set correctly then there was something wrong with the bass. Heavy gauge flatwounds was the factory fitted standard on most basses - including Fender basses right up to the mid 1970s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1450081666' post='2929297'] I'm sure it's just a case of tweaking the truss rod, but when I tried Chromes I found the tension so alarming I immediately took them off. [/quote] I agree the tension on Chromes is unreal but as said it is easy enough to sort out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3below Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) [quote name='Yawn_Blah' timestamp='1450083446' post='2929309'] yes i forgot to mention that i took mine off too and went back to those old 45-100s! i did achieve the desired relief and action with the 50-105s on but i was not sure what would happen to my neck in the future during time...! [/quote] [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1450085140' post='2929324'] I put a set of those fender flats with the green silks on a bass once ages ago and you could have shot arrows with the bass afterwards Action went to about an inch off the fretboard. [/quote] I also found the Chromes 50-105s quite different to the 45-100s, much more different than the 10% to 5% diameter difference suggests. The 45-100s are easier to me but I am very partial to the spaghetti string aka TI flats. I also tried the Fender flats with green silks. That lasted about 10 minutes for the same reasons as CamdenRob. Even with truss rod and action sorted I did not enjoy the experience, made my DB with spiro mittel seem quite low tension. The 50-105s seem quite firm even on a 30" scale bass, tone is good though. Edited December 15, 2015 by 3below Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taha_never Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1450212091' post='2930663'] Heavy gauge flatwounds was the factory fitted standard on most basses - including Fender basses right up to the mid 1970s. [/quote] Pre CBS vs MIM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taha_never Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 thanks a lot for your helpful inputs. i think i'll put them back on the bass for a couple of weeks and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 [quote name='Yawn_Blah' timestamp='1450239376' post='2930846'] Pre CBS vs MIM! [/quote] CBS took over in 1965. Flats were factory fitted at least until 1976. Anyway, are you suggesting MIM are not up to standard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayDownThaFunk Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 50-105 Chromes are similar tension to 50-105 XLs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@23 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I had green silk Fender flats on two Precisions for a couple of years, there were no issues! They are very high tension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taha_never Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1450249316' post='2930853'] are you suggesting MIM are not up to standard? [/quote] i don't know. i'm asking this. as they are very cheaper than the vintage/USA ones i suspected that the tolerances and standards may vary so maybe i should not put a high tension string on a mexican neck. another thing to mention is that after a1.5 year of use (with 45-100 199LBs strings on) i'm facing a maxed out truss rod which means i have to put washers under it first (if that just fixes the problem) before putting the new strings on. bigger strings=bigger problems?! Edited December 18, 2015 by Yawn_Blah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 If I had a bass with a maxed out truss rod then I wouldn't put even higher tension strings on it. I'd would get the trusss rod fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taha_never Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 yes Dave i'm going do that first. thanks a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taha_never Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]bought some metal washers from our local hardware shop. inner:5.5 vs outer:10 millimeters. narrowed the outer to 9mm myself and the fit perfectly. decided to just swap out the D string with the D string from the new set. the neck is currently set up very well to a much better action than before with zero problem. thanks again.[/font][/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taha_never Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1451934198' post='2944787'] Very good. [/quote] Cheers ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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