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[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1444514527' post='2883835']


Fixed. :mellow:
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Didn't he already put "me" in his post? Not sure what you are trying to fix there.

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[quote name='darren' timestamp='1444554811' post='2883952']
Didn't he already put "me" in his post? Not sure what you are trying to fix there.
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[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]As opposed to the implied '...you would have a hard time convincing me that bedroom noodling[b] that anyone does[/b] is as much fun as a live gig[b] that they could play'[/b].[/font][/color]

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Gigging is a funny thing. The money is not great (usually) and I don't really like my fellow band members (singer and guitarist are married and are both Narcissistic sociopaths). The drummer has some kind of serious, paranoid, mental health issue (which he takes all sorts of heavy duty meds for) and is crazier than a box of frogs. I wouldn't want to socialise with any of them outside the band. But we make such a great racket together and I really enjoy the gigs.

As soon as we finish though I take the cash and am outta that door like a rat up a drainpipe.

P.S. An interesting topic to discuss might be, 'Basschatters who are in bands, where they dislike their fellow band members, but stay in the band because they really like the music they play'.

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[quote name='gjones' timestamp='1444560678' post='2884044']
Gigging is a funny thing. The money is not great (usually) and I don't really like my fellow band members (singer and guitarist are married and are both Narcissistic sociopaths). The drummer has some kind of serious, paranoid, mental health issue (which he takes all sorts of heavy duty meds for) and is crazier than a box of frogs. I wouldn't want to socialise with any of them outside the band. But we make such a great racket together and I really enjoy the gig.
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Sounds like a normal band to me. :P

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[quote name='gjones' timestamp='1444560678' post='2884044']
Gigging is a funny thing. The money is not great (usually) and I don't really like my fellow band members (singer and guitarist are married and are both Narcissistic sociopaths). The drummer has some kind of serious, paranoid, mental health issue (which he takes all sorts of heavy duty meds for) and is crazier than a box of frogs. I wouldn't want to socialise with any of them outside the band. But we make such a great racket together and I really enjoy the gigs.

As soon as we finish though I take the cash and am outta that door like a rat up a drainpipe.

P.S. An interesting topic to discuss might be, 'Basschatters who are in bands, where they dislike their fellow band members, but stay in the band because they really like the music they play'.
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Your drummer just sounds like a drummer to me!

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[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1444556958' post='2883985']


[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]As opposed to the implied '...you would have a hard time convincing me that bedroom noodling[b] that anyone does[/b] is as much fun as a live gig[b] that they could play'[/b].[/font][/color]
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I never got all that from his post to be honest.

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[quote name='gjones' timestamp='1444560678' post='2884044']
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P.S. An interesting topic to discuss might be, 'Basschatters who are in bands, where they dislike their fellow band members, but stay in the band because they really like the music they play'.
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For most of of us its only your first band that consists of just mates, after that your more likely colleagues than friends. Its the pecking order that causes problems. Which is a good argument for having a leader, so you all know yer place.

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[quote name='Slipperydick' timestamp='1444563449' post='2884082']


For most of of us its only your first band that consists of just mates, after that your more likely colleagues than friends. Its the pecking order that causes problems. Which is a good argument for having a leader, so you all know yer place.
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Very true.

We are more colleagues. I like 95% of what we play.

Blue

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I love to gig as a bass player , playing bass on your own is not very exciting .

When I play classical guitar , it's purely for me on my own , pure 100% selfishness .

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I have to like the music... but that comes from the players, I have to be able to get on with the people but
accept you need a lot of tolerance on this one. I have a 24 hr rule for some people...:lol: and I have to
really like their playing. The last is most important as if we aren't getting anything back from everyone
what is the point..? you are playing the music by numbers, which is my main issue with cover bands.

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[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1444638759' post='2884607']
you are playing the music by numbers, which is my main issue with cover bands.
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I'm just sorry that most of us are not blessed with your obvious talent for writing catchy original material!

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I play originals as well as covers, but if anyone thinks that cover bands are simply "painting by numbers" then I guess I'm trying to be Tom Keating or Van Meegeren.

If I can play numbers as well as or even better than the original then I'm winning. IMO the validation comes from others liking what ever it is that you do. You need gigs to find that out.

That's all I'm trying to do. . . come out ahead and leave as many people as I can in my wake that are happier than when I started.

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[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1444643259' post='2884659']


That's all I'm trying to do. . . come out ahead and leave as many people as I can in my wake that are happier than when I started.
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I concur !

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[quote name='ubit' timestamp='1444639715' post='2884620']
I'm just sorry that most of us are not blessed with your obvious talent for writing catchy original material!
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But I don't... I just write the bass parts...either for the original or for the cover...and I use the
word 'write' very tenuously, but some of the guys want a credit just for playing on the track...as they feel they've
'written' a part that wasn't there or pre determined.
And funnily enough, this issue was started by ............ drummers, of all people, so if it is good enough for them...
:lol:

So, stretching that ...we get to writing parts for covers as altho the part is on a track...if you don't copy it..how close to that is
re-writing it.... drummers have argued this vehmently, IME.
Obviously easier to swing on originals..IF, the writer is willing to offer a credit.
In the grand scheme of things, it adds up to a big fat zero..but there you go..!!

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[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1444643259' post='2884659']
I play originals as well as covers, but if anyone thinks that cover bands are simply "painting by numbers" then I guess I'm trying to be Tom Keating or Van Meegeren.

[b]If I can play numbers as well as or even better than the original then I'm winning[/b]. IMO the validation comes from others liking what ever it is that you do. You need gigs to find that out.

That's all I'm trying to do. . . come out ahead and leave as many people as I can in my wake that are happier than when I started.
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And a lot of bands wont do that... they'll just try and copy THEIR own part..but they forget or don't realise that the drums or so and so isn't quite the same
and isn' quite working but the gtr solo is 'perfect' so lets go with that.

I've no problem with covers that put a bit of effort in but really I want to hear the guys 'playing' and not copying.
Otherwise, I might just as well stick with the CD...??

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I love gigging. It's by far my favourite part of being a Bassist. I love it because, although I'm generally a humble and modest man, performing gives me a chance to show off. I also get to hang out with my bandmates (who are fortunately, very cool) and provides me with a small but significant revenue stream. Significant because it makes my hobby seem "legitimate". Without gigging, i'd still play, but I'd think twice about spending £50 on flatwound strings...

I love the experience of playing live and i don't let the occasional crappy gig put me off, but for some people, the whole thought of playing in front of a potentially hostile audience makes them actually unwell -one of those people is the legendary Andy Partridge from XTC. His stagefright became so chronic that he walked off stage at the start of a live, French TV broadcast, never to return to the gig scene.

Most of us on this forum play for fun. If that fun is in front of people or alone in the bedroom (hyuck, hyuck...), then as long as it's fun - no harm, no foul. Some of the best musos I know wouldn't even think of gigging and put considerable effort into home recording projects. A LOT of effort. Often for the fruit of their labours to be heard by just a handful of people. But they love it. It wouldn't work for me, but for them it's a creative outlet that's second to none.

As the French say - "Vive la difference!"

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The moment when the song takes you over,you dig in and play every note as if it's your last.
You've co-written the tracks,helped arrainge them,raised them like your offspring and then watched them go out into the big wide sonic world.
You're on the ragged edge of holding it together,and for 3 minutes 45 seconds you are indestructable.
The audience cheer,they want one more,and when you come off stage the only thing keeping you upright is the adrenaline.
The whole band are grinning at each other in a show of fraternal joy.
Big gig,small gig,they are all important gigs.
Because you put on a show for your audience.
Never gig?
I would rather give up breathing.

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[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1444638759' post='2884607']
You are playing the music by numbers, which is my main issue with cover bands.[/quote]

That's an opinion right, and a rather broad stroke. All cover bands are not the same.

I play in a blues /rock cover band. I would venture to say we don't play anything the same way twice. And as a bass guitarist I am always switching lines up adding new riffs and accents. Changing how you execute your parts there's all sorts of ways to keep things fresh, fun and interesting.

Blue

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[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1444651860' post='2884732']
I've no problem with covers that put a bit of effort in but really I want to hear the guys 'playing' and not copying.
Otherwise, I might just as well stick with the CD...??
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I think what you talking about more resembles the functions or corporate bands. They tend to and their business is really copying songs as close to the original recording as possible.

There are way to many different types of cover bands to give it such a broad stroke.

Blue

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[quote name='blue' timestamp='1444708051' post='2885198']
That's an opinion right, and a rather broad stroke. All cover bands are not the same.

I play in a blues /rock cover band. I would venture to say we don't play anything the same way twice. And as a bass guitarist I am always switching lines up adding new riffs and accents. Changing how you execute your parts there's all sorts of ways to keep things fresh, fun and interesting.

Blue
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I agree...but the reason I say it is because it applies to the vast majority, IMO of bands around here...and I get out and see a lot of bands.
You get to know which muso's play like that and which don't and if I saw 10 bands in a couple on months and I'd say 80%
of them go for the blander, IMV, approach....and I'd tend not to want to catch them again.
Having said that...the social part is there as well, so I might go and see a band because they are musical mates and to support a venue etc etc
..but musically we haven't really got much in common.

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