Clarky72 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) You make amazing instruments, but why can't you finish a top end instrument off properly? This is a 60th Anniversary Jazz, no cheapy, and look at the state of it under the plate. No sexy plate-free Jaco action will be happening here. They couldn't have routed both pickup slots tight and drilled through to the cavity instead? I won't even start about the locating hole for the router! Meh.... Still it sounds great, has a lovely tone, and plays like silk, but just looks pants without it's cover... shame on you Fender!! Edited October 24, 2013 by Clarky72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Took me a while to notice the issues with the bass. I was trying to work out what was happening with the jeans ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 There won't be any "Jaco action" going on anyway - it's got frets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky72 Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Haha... what wrong with my legs? Ok, yeah it is fretted, but they look so nice without the plate. If only... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh2 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Fenders eh?... expensive mass produced bolt on bits and pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky72 Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 I was waiting for the anti-Fender people to find this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Sometimes they use one routing pattern for multiple options (why the excess was covered with a scratch plate in some cases) and as in the 60s they probably did exactly that, the re-issue has to repeat all the bad bits as well as the good bits! I know what you mean about the non-scratchplate look though, it's pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiOgon Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I thought only MiMs were like that under the covers shame - makes it look like a cheap copy body definitely not a good look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky72 Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 No, my mate's US Deluxe is the same under the cover too.... :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) But "Leo got it right", he doesn't want you to take the scratch plate off. (Or the bridge and pickup covers, and he wants you to play with your thumb using the tug bar.) Edited October 24, 2013 by BigRedX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1382603980' post='2254123'] But "Leo got it right", he doesn't want you to take the scratch plate off. (Or the bridge and pickup covers, and he wants you to play with your thumb using the tug bar.) [/quote] He also wants you to use those enormous chrome covers that make playing the instrument utterly impossible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I'm just wondering about that box that seems to be attached to your knob, what does it do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twigman Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Another reason to love Warmoth licensed bodies. They always rout the pickups tight and drill through to the cavity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky72 Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 keeps my knob in tune... oh, is that not normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh2 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I first saw that routing on an expensive RI and thought WTF? I really don't know why fender do that on these. The CV Squier has the same... pity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 [quote name='Karnage' timestamp='1382602612' post='2254095'] Sometimes they use one routing pattern for multiple options (why the excess was covered with a scratch plate in some cases)Also as in the 60s they probably did exactly that, the re-issue has to repeat all the bad bits as well as the good bits! I know what you mean about the non-scratchplate look though, it's pretty cool. [/quote] An example of why it's worth more to get an imported CIJ jazz. My 62RI has the 'clean' route, and I haven't seen one that hasn't. [quote name='Clarky72' timestamp='1382602987' post='2254104'] No, my mate's US Deluxe is the same under the cover too.... :/ [/quote] It's just a cheap cost cutting measure, I make a point of asking to to see underneath the P/G to see the routing when buying. [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1382604328' post='2254128'] He also wants you to use those enormous chrome covers that make playing the instrument utterly impossible... [/quote] Also impossible to restring in a sensible amount of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRISDABASS Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I wonder how much money / red paint they save by not doing the 3 tone burst on the bottom horn?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky72 Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Yeah annoying isn't it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Being serious now. On nearly every other solid electric instrument the scratch plate is there to cover up the routing channels for the electrical components. Removing it on most other instruments would reveal far worse than you are seeing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky72 Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 You are right, just a shame they do it properly but can be lazy these days on all but Custom Shop builds.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasMooseblaster Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 [quote name='Clarky72' timestamp='1382605917' post='2254176'] keeps my knob in tune... oh, is that not normal? [/quote] Just seems a bit much when you've only got one string to tune... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntLockyer Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 This is why I bought a VM Squier because it doesn't have the ugly hogged out body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 [quote name='AntLockyer' timestamp='1382610911' post='2254276'] This is why I bought a VM Squier because it doesn't have the ugly hogged out body. [/quote] Exactly. The VM Squire is designed without a scratch plate. Ever taken the scratch plate off a "traditional" Fender Stratocaster? Even the ones that don't have the "swimming pool" route are far worse than what's shown in the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Does Fender's poor quality control make them good for metal? At leas they're not as expensive as a Fodera etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 It would be fantastic if they released a non-plate Jazz, with an option of the control plate, in some awesome colours, and not charge custom prices. Mind you, we all wanted a USA P/J, and they have answered this, in a very expensive way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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