xgsjx Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 One of my guitarists said he doesn't like Jazz. The other guitarist said "Let's play That's Life" & the first said "I like that song"/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1382294700' post='2250297'] Mention 'jazz' to people and, aside from a few who like it, the reactions seem to be very negative, some even hostile. People don't react like this to 'classical' music do they? [/quote] Many years ago where i worked i often stayed late on Fridays on my own to catch up on work and often listen to some jazz. If anyone popped in their usual comment was 'why are you listening to that?' and 'I couldn't listen to that'. I usually replied that no one was asking them to and to close the door when they went so never got into any conversation of why they didn't like it. The strangest reaction i ever got was when i played anything like Varese, Messiaen or Stockhausen. Usually calm people used to get really upset and even nasty about it for reasons that they couldn't actually explain. It seemed to bring out the worst in even the mildest mannered person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 It's the f**king self-satisfied nodding that I can't be doing with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I like Jazz. Moondance is one of my favourite numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I Wanna Hear Caravan With A Drum Solo..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) [quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1382301166' post='2250459'] The strangest reaction i ever got was when i played anything like Varese, Messiaen or Stockhausen. Usually calm people used to get really upset and even nasty about it for reasons that they couldn't actually explain. It seemed to bring out the worst in even the mildest mannered person. [/quote] I get the same sort of reaction when I play CAN, Tangerine Dream, ENO, NEU or Cluster... ...I suppose a lot of it depends on what kind of drugs you're into. Edited October 20, 2013 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) It also depends on what sort of jazz you're talking about. If there's a clarinet or a banjo involved, count me out. But 'An Evening With Ornette Coleman' completely blew my mind when I first heard it. I've got a lot of time for Coltrane, too. Edit: Yer average punter doesn't like to be challenged by anything, let alone jazz. They are not open-minded enough to spend time properly listening to it. And that's probably alienated at least 80% of the forum, so I'll say good night! Edited October 20, 2013 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubassman Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1382301616' post='2250480'] It also depends on what sort of jazz you're talking about. If there's a clarinet or a banjo involved, count me out. But 'An Evening With Ornette Coleman' completely blew my mind when I first heard it. I've got a lot of time for Coltrane, too. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1382301337' post='2250466'] I like Jazz. Moondance is one of my favourite numbers. [/quote] LMFAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Riffed Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [color=#676767][font=Georgia,]I got no kick against modern jazz[/font][/color] [color=#676767][font=Georgia,]Unless they try to play it too darn fast[/font][/color] [color=#676767][font=Georgia,]And lose the beauty of the melody[/font][/color] [color=#676767][font=Georgia,]Until it sounds just like a symphony[/font][/color] [color=#676767][font=Georgia,] [/font][/color][color=#676767][font=Georgia,] [/font][/color] [color=#676767][font=Georgia,]Chuck Berry 1957 [/font][/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticktock Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I love jazz. I don't play it but I love listening to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) [quote name='jakenewmanbass' timestamp='1382298611' post='2250409'] Jazz was once upon a time, folk music... Now, in the hands of many people that call themselves jazz musicians it is music played by musicians that have got their chops together and have a major desire to show other musicians the [i]e[/i][i]xtent[/i] to which they've got those chops together. That type of jazz doesn't sound like music to me. And this is coming from someone who has played a ton of jazz through my working life. There is plenty of really good jazz being played by some awesome musicians in this country and elsewhere eg Mike Walker and Gwilym Simcock playing in the 'Impossible gentlemen' a band with Adam Nussbaum and Steve Swallow. Mike is an old mate of mine and one of the finest jazz musicians I've played with, so there is great stuff out there, you just need to be judicious and learn to realise when you've just got a noodler/showboater in front of you. It is of course all subjective! I did a jazz gig in Reading this lunchtime, was a blast! [/quote]Tony trumpet, from Birkenhead, says hi, Jake. Edited October 20, 2013 by steve-soar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 In general I find jazz just leaves me cold Especially the kind where there's solo, after solo, after solo, after solo, after solo. . . We went to see Gregory Porter at a jazz festival earlier this year and the support groups were full of great technical musicians that just bored me rigid. Completely lacking in any sort of soul or charisma. For me, that was the big downer. It just felt like they were playing for themselves and had zero interest in the audience. Gregory Porter came on and the whole place came to life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1382301616' post='2250480'] But 'An Evening With Ornette Coleman' completely blew my mind when I first heard it. [/quote] I must admit to rather liking Ornette Coleman too. Edited October 20, 2013 by BetaFunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1382309180' post='2250572'] I must admit to rather liking Ornette.......... [/quote] HAHAHA. Love this. I love having my mind nourished and this guy does it for me. xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 How can people holding you by the hand, and guiding you into your soul, to find truth and honesty, leave you cold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krysh Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1382298217' post='2250403'] Is this Jazz? If so I like it. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edUGRcKHccA&feature=share&list=PL4CF8C1F37C208FFC[/media] [/quote] outstanding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krysh Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 probably most people can't define what jazz is, neither do I. but most people don't like what they can't name or understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krysh Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [quote name='steve-soar' timestamp='1382309764' post='2250577'] How can people holding you by the hand, and guiding you into your soul, to find truth and honesty, leave you cold? [/quote] simply beause most people can't see where you guide them to and they are afraid of the unknown... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [quote name='steve-soar' timestamp='1382309587' post='2250575'] HAHAHA. Love this. I love having my mind nourished and this guy does it for me. xxx [/quote] As well as having every LP he's made i've managed to see Ornette live in every decade since the 70s and he never ceases to amaze me. Fabulous music whatever anyone wants to calls it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bassman7755 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1382301616' post='2250480'] Edit: Yer average punter doesn't like to be challenged by anything, let alone jazz. They are not open-minded enough to spend time properly listening to it. And that's probably alienated at least 80% of the forum, so I'll say good night! [/quote] I don't hate jazz, but I do hate these kind of elitist statements about it. Jazz is not, despite what some of its proponents may think, some "higher form" of music, its just a-n-other genre and people are quite entitled to not want to listen to it. All forms of music should be respected equally (yes even country). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I think that everyone should at some point in their life be strapped into a chair and with headphones secured listen to 'The Heliocentric World Of Sun Ra Volumes 1 & 2'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I can't stand jazz, it's one of the few genres that I point blank refuse to play unless I'm getting paid to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Sums it up for me http://youtu.be/ZBeC-LcLoP0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [quote name='bassman7755' timestamp='1382310811' post='2250589'] All forms of music should be respected equally (yes even country) [/quote] And not western? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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