Sibob

You seem to be struggling with the fact that there's a fundamental contextual difference between something that ruins lives and kills people.....and bass playing on YouTube. Si

Your argument is fundamentally flawed, seeing as the guy has hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions, I've not looked recently) of subscribers. Just because YOU think it's crap, doesn't mean everyone else doesn't find it useful in some way. But equally no-one has said it's 'good because he's popular', but you have to assume it's 'good' to the vast majority of his subscribers. And if you're seriously likening him, and the many like him, playing bass on YouTube to selling crack, then I think this thread is done, because that's idiotic! For what it's worth, I couldn't care less about his content, I find it quite boring....but massive luck to him! Si

"OMGZ Someone making a living playing bass in 2017....what an a-hole" Si

That'll teach me for referencing Jimmy Page and Jimi Hendrix in quick succession lol Si

That's kinda the joke Si

By the same token, why does Jimmi Hendrix get an extra star? i'd be interested to know the elite pool of electric bassists you're putting up against Jaco during his glory years? Si

Ah ok, it was your "impressive but there's lots of great players out there so i'm not sure why he gets the extra star or two" comment, so I replied with a joke about Jimmy Page. The joke could have been Jimmy Hendrix...."Oh Jimmi Hendrix was 25 (our whatever) when he write Voodoo Chile.....I could play it when I was 16". You take my point. Essentially it was a comment about he wasn't just a great player, anyone can be a great player, but he was a trail-blazer. Si

That's a great finish for a Mustang! Congrats on the new bass. Si

I'm not sure I understand your post in the context of my quote. Si

I never asserted that Jamesons lines were written for him, of course they weren't, but he was expected to play to a chart and support the song. Yes he was given some freedom because he had great feel, time and taste, but he wasn't writing tunes is my point, the Funk Brothers were a machine, they simply cranked out (usually amazing) songs for singers, from charts. I know right?! It's like Stairway To Heaven.....Jimmy Page was about 26 when he wrote that, I could play it when I was 16!!!! Si

Who says they're shrinking? Si

We all know that such methodology is simply not going to happen in the context of musical instruments, the testing of a cohort of 100 identical instruments with one difference, and so there will never be any definitive proof. If that's what you need, presumably you're happy that you'll never have a preference between rosewood, maple, alder, ash, active, passive etc etc because there are simply too many micro-variables each time you try a different bass for you to know what the contributing factor is to you liking or not liking it. Fair play if that is the case. I can definitely hear differences in the Fodera test, but completely agree that those differences are more than likely going to get lost in a band mix.....but then so does the whole rosewood, maple, alder, ash blah blah blah thing....but we don't just play in band mixes do we :). Then there's the question of aesthetic preferences, and the above-mentioned issue of repairs on through-necks etc. Si

I remember reading that Primus' Brown album was recorded with one ambient condenser in the room, and the drummer used the largest drums he could find. Doesn't sound super 'studio', but definitely has a vibe. Anything is useable if you know how Si

Ah great, we'll have to try meet up for a drink/food Si

I'll be there most likely, and NAMM in Jan too in case anyone else is Si

If you google 'Bolt-on vs neck-through', there's a LOT of discussion about the subject. My personal experience is that NTs offer more sustain, more resonance, whereas BOs offer more attack and of course the benefit of not having to replace the whole bass if the neck becomes irreversibly damaged (extreme case of course). I've owned both and love both, including set-necks. I'm simply trying to suggest that a boutique builder using a BO technique over NT means nothing further than it's a construction/tonal choice, not a compromise. Edit: Looks like Fodera ran this exact test: "The theory goes, a neck-through construction has the most sustain, and a bolt-on construction has the least sustain. The dovetail construction lies somewhere in between the two. In the summer of 2012, we decided to put this theory to the test and built three virtually identical instruments with one distinct difference: the neck construction! We then lent them to our friend and Fodera Artist, Matt Garrison to record with all three so we could actually listen to the differences. You can listen to these recording for yourself here: https://soundcloud.com/fodera-guitars/sets/neck-joints " Si

I've had a set of Chromes on my '71 Precision for the last couple of years and they're brilliant, no wish/need to try anything else, match made in heaven Si

It's also worth remembering that those 'professionals' are probably only in that position of knowledge by DIY'ing for decades lol Si

As has been said previously, there's nothing nonsense about Jaco's playing, no accidents etc. Of course, towards the end of his life he fell apart and very much relied on his past to prop up his artistry to some degree, but he was ill. And suggesting that Jameson (whom I love a great deal) had some kind of rhythmic mastery over and above Jaco is just silly, they applied it in very different ways, but Jaco was an equal rhythm powerhouse, incredible drummer too (that's him drumming on Teen Town). It also seems that you're judging his playing on how you think the bass SHOULD be, whereas actually it's simply another instrument that allows the player to express themselves, its role has simply been dictated by western musical styles. He wrote the music, and so why wouldn't he step out and fulfil what he feels he needs to play, he's not doing it for anyone else other than him, whereas Jameson was on a wage, playing through songs that were just put in front of him on the music stand.....who knows what he would have done given full creative freedom. If you haven't already, listen to Jaco play through his Big Band albums, perhaps much more your thing, because it's a large band and he understands placement within a larger context. Weather Report was a much smaller band, and so more ability to step out, fill space (where appropriate) and have fun. But just to further the conversation, I do love leaving this video hanging around :): Just to be clear, i'm not saying that everyone should like Jaco, obviously not.....but appreciate him for what he was in total, not simply that he played music you don't like. Si

Oh I wasn't trying to convince anyone, t'was just for reference, was going to do it anyway Si

Plenty of people much prefer the sound of bolt-ons to neck-throughs, you get a much more present attack with Bolt-On's (arguably a preference for the type of music typically played on Thunderbirds). It's why plenty of boutique companies offer both options, because one is not 'better' than the other. Si

Much better Si