bigjohn

[quote name='Musky' timestamp='1363199995' post='2009736'] Doubling the number of speakers (like for like) will give a 3dB increase in volume. Likewise, doubling the power will also give a 3dB increase. So with an amplifier producing 300w into a 4 ohm load, the single 4 ohm cab will receive the full 300w. With two cabs giving a combined load of 8 ohms the same amp will typically produce about 200w (theoretically amps double their output power when you halve the impedance, but in reality that never happens), so that's a decrease in volume of about 1.7dB - BUT... using twice the number of speakers gives a 3dB increase in volume, so you're left with an overall increase of 1.3dB. Unfortunately 1.3dB is absolutely negligible, so overall you're left with about the same volume. [/quote] Ah right. To be honest though - when I had 2 2x10s, I rewired them to be 16Ohm, not 4Ohm. I couldn't tell the difference when used separately, despite them drawing only 1/4 of the power (~150W not 600W) - my amp ran A LOT cooler... When both were used together (8Ohm and ~300W) they always sounded much louder regardless...

[quote name='Musky' timestamp='1363041400' post='2007603'] One 210 running at 4 ohms will give you about the same volume as two 210's at 8 ohms combined. [/quote] How does that work?

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSRQCMq1gB8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSRQCMq1gB8[/url]

hin-eee-tonika.

[quote name='OliverBlackman' timestamp='1363126584' post='2009067'] *@)$** off you **%#*=** *+%#@ or else I'll *%#@* your *^%#<#* $€@/ Tits [/quote] Hear, hear... (Rhubarb, rhubarb)

Knotty Maple is fine. Just don't mention Knotty Ash.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmMy1X6-BEc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmMy1X6-BEc[/url]

I really like Sungrazer. Not really a surprise as I really like Kyuss too. I find some of the whole genre a bit grating vocally though. Much like every genre to be honest!

Not bad ... Not bad at all...

A lucky chap I know on here has one...

Nowt wrong with 4 strings.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1361497299' post='1986734'] Development seems to have gone away, could do with it back. Seems to be heading that way as I can still find some music that interests me, but its hard to get among all the 'influences' in absence of ideas. [/quote] Well you'll have to get out more. Or look on youtube. I'm quite looking forward to this new Queens of the Stone Age stuff, which is quite odd as I was never really a big fan. I doubt I'll buy it though. ...Probably won't like it.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1361494779' post='1986710'] "the traditional music distribution system" was hearing it played, figuring how to play it, then playing it to people some of whom would do the same. Music developed through chinese whispers. Now we get 10 million rehashes of Beatles classics with production that makes it sound dated in 5 years. [/quote] Well yes. An that's never gone away has it? And that's not what I was talking about and well you know it "recorded for kinetically / electrically powered & physically stored audio distribution system" how's that?

[quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1361471094' post='1986291'] bigjohn you're a total don! [/quote] Aww... Fangs... I think you've got to view the traditional music distribution system as pretty much defunct / dead. It's death began the 80s and 90s with the advent of MTV / the internet and the lack of interest in the top 40 / top 10 albums and buying the physical items that made that such a massive industry. CDs just prolonged the death because they're smaller and easier / more profitable to produce. If the internet existed in the 50s and 60s, there's no way we end up with the monolith we call the music industry in the 70s and 80s. And the nomenclature of "file sharing" and "downloading" is laughable. What the hell is the internet if it's not both of those things? For better or worse. As was said earlier, the kids don't give a damn. Or similar. I'm off to find some late night cheese. I'm thinking Roxy Music. I need cheering up after losing to Zenit.

I think you've got to view the traditional music distribution system as pretty much defunct / dead. It's death began the 80s and 90s with the advent of MTV / the internet and the lack of interest in the top 40 / top 10 albums and buying the physical items that made that such a massive industry. CDs just prolonged the death because they're smaller and easier / more profitable to produce. If the internet existed in the 50s and 60s, there's no way we end up with the monolith we call the music industry in the 70s and 80s. And the nomenclature of "file sharing" and "downloading" is laughable. What the hell is the internet if it's not both of those things? For better or worse.

[quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1361469883' post='1986253'] Absolutely, Stu - and, certainly, less [i]control[/i] of what we would call the value-stream. In terms of 'tangible benefit', I don't think it could have been clearer - how many examples have we had? Kodak? Jessops? Game? HMV? All running to the wall, for the wont of a new business model. We're still on the why, though. We could see it. So, with our record company example, even with the change to digital media apparent - why didn't they change? Not as much scope for profit? Yeah, very likely. But, if the market is changing you still need to adapt to it or fail - I mean, if you were making a 10% margin and had to drop to 5%, it's still better than 0% and the abyss. And this is where I think the why could be telling - why didn't they adapt? Did they think, in hypotheses, that they could exercise a level of control on the market, to the extent that they could control production and thus stave off the need for change? [/quote] They should have all read "[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Moved_My_Cheese"]Who Moved my Cheese?[/url]" [b]Change Happens[/b] [i]They Keep Moving The Cheese[/i] [b]Anticipate Change[/b] [i]Get Ready For The Cheese To Move[/i] [b]Monitor Change[/b] [i]Smell The Cheese Often So You Know When It Is Getting Old[/i] [b]Adapt To Change Quickly[/b] [i]The Quicker You Let Go Of Old Cheese, The Sooner You Can Enjoy New Cheese[/i] [b]Change[/b] [i]Move With The Cheese[/i] [b]Enjoy Change![/b] [i]Savor The Adventure And Enjoy The Taste Of New Cheese![/i] [b]Be Ready To Change Quickly And Enjoy It Again[/b] [i]They Keep Moving The Cheese.[/i]

The way I look at it. "downloading" a "copy" of a track sometimes isn't worth paying for. However, buying a track from iTunes sometimes is. If it's a track I want perennial use of. I don't [i]have [/i]to back it up, I can download it to multiple devices and the metadata is correct on each. It's more the distribution I'm buying than the track. Much like when I bought vinyl I was buying the object rather than the music, when more often than not I could obtain a cassette copy of whatever I wanted from somewhere, I still bought albums like I do now.

[quote name='SteveK' timestamp='1361280152' post='1983771'] I'm not sure if you're having a joke or being serious. In the absence of a smiley, I'll assume that you're serious... 'Pay them per flip?'...Why? I'm not paid per pluck. But certainly, pay the designer of the light switch per unit sold. [/quote] Do you consider "a unit" as a digital copy of something that can be reproduced over and over with no extra production cost? (much like a flip?)

Yeah, to be honest, though I'd always ask beforehand, or a least make a decent attempt to get in touch with other bands playing on the night, if, like gigs I've played before, there's 3 or 4 bands on and we're going on first or second, in another city, I don't expect to have to take a full rig with me. Similarly when I play with other bands who had to travel and are going on after us, I find it unrealistic to expect them to have brought full rigs and a drum kit. It just doesn't happen. Nor should it.