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FWIW, I have no problem with either BRX's posts or basses that aren't Fender. Just sayin'.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1363112835' post='2008746'] Think a lot of it is down to what you are used to. I would imagine that for a large number people here, their first bass was something that was based on either a Fender P or J. They got used to that design of bass. [/quote] You might have a point, but just for the record, mine was a pointy-headstocked Gibson Epiphone thingy, followed by a Hohner Jack headless, followed by an Overwater Progress, followed by a Stingray / Sterling custom build. It was years before I knocked on Fender's door...

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1363109815' post='2008689'] Au contraire! I'm reading some interesting replies, in amongst the guy who started the thread trying to bring "hate" into it. [/quote] Oh, for crying out loud....

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1363109451' post='2008678'] You're the one that implied that someone on this thread "hated" Fender bases, which implies extreme feelings. Why you couldn't use "dislike" or a simple "not like" makes me think it would have ended up kicking off - again. [/quote] Settle doon, man. It's just internets lingo. The only person that's kicked off is you.

That has happened to a few musician friends of mine over the years. They just... walk away. And usually they come back months / years down the line. Who knows - maybe I'll just wake up one morning and think... 'bugger it'. But as it stands I literally can't comprehend it. It's such an alien concept.

[quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1363107119' post='2008627'] There should be rules against posting rubbish like that. [/quote] A very measured response. Well done.

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1363105526' post='2008590'] The problem is that once a question, that introduces an inflammatory aspect to it, is answered - then it does become part of the discussion. [/quote] You think it's inflammatory... I strongly dispute that.

[quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1363105563' post='2008591'] You are wrong. There are plenty Fender owners who wouldn't spit on a Gibson if it was on fire and are quite vocal when it comes to voicing that opinion. There's even a Gibson headstock joke in this thread, and the thread isn't even about Gibsons. Don't talk to me about people looking down their noses, you don't know you're born. [/quote] OK - ta for that. It's not something I've seen much of, as I don't generally get involved.

I think the angle of my question is relevant given the context of this thread. I also think that Fender users are generally just happy where they are, and don't feel compelled to look down their noses at boutique fans (for example). Most of the comments seem to come the other way, this thread being a good example. Or am I wrong..? As for tone, it's subjective. No-one's ever going to win that one.

Nah - I'll stick with haters. But thanks for the feedback.

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1363102960' post='2008525'] Has anyone anywhere, apart from here, used the word "hate"? One thing that is repeatedly frustrating about this forum is users who introduce a loaded word into a thread as though it's already been used & then the discussion goes off on that tangent based on a false assumption. (see under "Beatles" thread) [/quote] You know what I mean... One thing that is repeatedly frustrating about this forum is people who take things too literally...

I'm a little in the dark with this, still. Would a Fender hater care to chip in and let me know in what ways my performance (musical, that is) would be improved if I were to play another brand? Thank you.

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1363094952' post='2008292'] ^this. It's not a knot. And if the OP's "knot" had moved enough to distort a fret or cause a buzz it would have shown itself in the join between the f'board & the neck. [/quote] So... have we established that it's knot a not, and therefore it's knot going to have any effect on the neck. And, if it is a not, it would. Or have we knot?

Careful with these - quite a few of them have a dead spot around 7".

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1363087998' post='2008107'] From way back in the day (90's?) when I bought a MIM "Contemorary" Telecaster I was under the impression that MIM were US parts shipped to Mexico for the lower worker's pay rates to make a cheaper guitar but otherwise identical, so any noticeable difference is in the hands of who put it together, though as was once pointed out there's more Mexicans working at the US plant than there is Americans so it's a mute point. Was I mis-informed, or is this not now - or never was - the case? [/quote] No - generally speaking, the parts are sourced differently.

This thread has reinforced what I thought all along - Fender can't win.

Best OT tangent EVER.

I've just listened to this clip from on of my gigs last year. There's loads of space in this tune to let my fretless P growl, and I love it. I can't believe I came within a gnat's whisker of selling it! Who says you need rounds and a bridge pickup on a fretless? Not I... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvc1vcFGGY0

[quote name='Grand Wazoo' timestamp='1363031486' post='2007377'] Well after having seen the pics in this thread I've had a good look at the back of my American Standard P Bass and I realized, (and want to show you all) that if I was to go by the judgement of that luthier in Exeter that my bass should be chopped and scrapped. Oh yeah, look at the grain, the nots and the imperfections all over the neck from the heel to the headstock, back and front. Jesus if that guy saw this neck he would think it was f*****d! [/quote] My GOD that is saucy!

Is it at Butlins? In the big rooms?

[quote name='risingson' timestamp='1362948188' post='2006661'] It's the bass player's bass from Alien Ant Farm, only my favourite band when I was 11 or 12! There is a story behind the building of this, I don't think it was made by Fender at all but ended up with the stamp on it. EDIT - apparently it's a custom shop, which makes me totally wrong! [/quote] It's definitely from the CS. There's a certificate with it, too...

How old is it?

[quote name='Jigster' timestamp='1362946775' post='2006630'] Hmm. It's a market, and I am paying for its use. But ok. [/quote] Can you imagine going to a market with no rules? It would be chaos.

I mean... [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Custom-Shop-Master-Built-Tye-Zamora-6-String-Fretless-Bass-Alien-Ant-Farm-/251241315215?pt=Guitar&hash=item3a7f263b8f"]Yaaaaaaaaawn[/url].