ShergoldSnickers

I've no direct experience of Phil Jones gear, but from what I've heard through third parties, there is a definite family sound throughout the range. Getting gig friendly volume will depend on the type of music and the venue, but it doesn't look like you'll get the kind of sound pressure levels to keep up with a loud drummer until you get into the more efficient cabs they do - the 12B, 18B and 21B ranges. The 6B might just do it, but it's quite inefficient, so needs lots of watts to get a decent level, but is only rated at 300W, limiting it's sound pressure level output. The 6B cab is quoted at 95dB, one watt at 1 metre, but with no indication as to what frequency or frequencies this is measured at. Therefore: 2 watts > 98dB 4 watts > 101dB 8 watts > 103dB 16 watts > 106dB 32 watts > 109dB 64 watts > 112dB 128 watts > 115dB 256 watts > 118dB 512 watts is over the rated input for the cab, so you are limited to about 118dB-119dB maximum with 300 watts, and even 256 watts may be more than the cab can handle for extended periods, either thermally or mechanically. A loud rock drummer can usually generate anything between 110dB and 130dB at 1 metre.

[quote name='bobbytodd' post='1204677' date='Apr 19 2011, 12:51 PM']has anybody tried the streamliner with a barefaced super twelve?and if you have was is any goodsince im torn between the rh740 and rs212 or streamliner and super twelve[/quote] Yep. Yorkshire Bass Bash at Harrogate when WoT tried his Jazz, Precision and his Streamliner with my Super Twelve cab. Sublime. Very, very impressed.

[quote name='51m0n' post='1203836' date='Apr 18 2011, 05:26 PM']A Barefaced SuperTwelve is a killer cab, easily as loud if not louder than almost any 410, and punchy as hell. Super easy lift to, I mean ridiculously easy - get one while Alex can still get the drivers to make 'em though....[/quote] My turn to back you up this time 51m0n... I really couldn't agree more.

[quote name='skankdelvar' post='1201618' date='Apr 16 2011, 10:21 AM']Sir Stafford Cripps once complimented me on my golf swing, but that probably doesn't count. In matters bass, a punter once remarked: "Gav naja nuvver sonnng, szfukn graaaaaaaate, kin ava go? Bez zfukn bann evva - EVVA! Yoo mi mayt? Wez mi mayt? Vukkov."[/quote] My mother got stuck next to Stafford Cripps at a lunch do once. 3 hours being unmercifully regaled about Ghandi and Colitis. As soon as he mentioned golf, she replied "Thank you, but I feel I've been handicapped enough for today, and furthermore, should I ever find your balls in the rough within my proximity, I'll kick them so hard they'll be up your hole in one before you can shout 'Fore'. Good day sir." Last compliment, from someone I hadn't seen in years: "I didn't know you were such an accomplished bass player." The answer that came out: Errrrr...... You still don't. I'm not. What I really wanted to say: "Any accomplishments are dwarfed by your ability to heap extra ridicule upon the bald head of truth, and also by my ability to collapse your statement in less than a single bar. Which is where you undoubtedly sprang from." * * Five hours of literary toil and it still doesn't quite work. Pass a fresh Chaise Longue I'm feeling weak again.

[quote name='Thunderpaws' post='1199523' date='Apr 14 2011, 03:33 PM']Had a thought. I already have a combo for lugging around but it's too big to leave in the living room. What combo would be best to leave behind the sofa in the living room to squeeze in a bit of practise when the wife is out and I just want to sit on the sofa and play? g[/quote] There's someone selling an Eden Nemesis N8 that would do nicely I think: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=123229"]It's here.[/url]

For a heart palpitating second I thought it said: High Heeled [b]Snickers[/b] I shall be issuing a formal denial through the usual channels. Now then.... Clifford K.... Clifford L.... Ah yes, Clifford M..... Edit: PS - on the face of it, it doesn't look like there is anything major to worry about. Getting advice from the MU is a good idea, and it may be worth politely asking the issuers to prove ID and that they have authority to issue the notice. Hope it all turns out OK.

[size=6][b]Breakthrough in valve amplification technology.[/b] [/size] Our valve amplification technology is unique. It's also green, using very little energy. It's easy to dial in the right amount of valve output, the yellow indicator tells you how much, and by using our distortion cones (smooth 'Linear Flare' cone illustrated) you can set the output characteristics to your taste.

[quote name='Gust0o' post='1197331' date='Apr 12 2011, 09:09 PM']Keith, you did a cracking job[/quote] That's all that needs to be said. You did, and many thanks.

I've made a rigid cage for my speaker cab to sit on. It has spikes on the top, and can be cleverly bolted to any stage surface, by use of a small hole saw and a set of gold-plated coach bolts. The spikes dig in to the cab bottom, and couple the mass of the Earth to the cab. The cones are then only working to move air and not wobble the cab about*. I've also filled the reflex port with drinking straws to give a laminar airflow. The older paper straws work best, giving a more solid and extended response, the plastic ones suck in comparison. The amplifier sits on a bed of nitrogen rich compressed air, damping over 97% of the cab vibration and quashing any spurious microphonics. A fourth order compound Butterworth and Whitworth threaded filter network spins odd order harmonics off to the sides - like the Dyson cleaner vortex principle. I have Surinam Malachite crystals adhered to the top of the 12AX7 input valve, using a specially developed ceramic adhesive paste made in France – Po Le Filleur Platinum Edition. This opens up the mids and top, getting rid of squawk and splash, whilst aiding my creativity and allowing my emotions full reign. Special unobtrusive cheek receptacles catch the tears. I'm experimenting with a willow neck and hand-stitched leather strings (steel core) at the moment, but curiously the sound only improves when I wear the custom leg pads and clutch the drummer's bails. * Hmmmmm.... wonders....

Well if you had to pick a band to see from cold based on the review, it would have to be Rattlin Bone. Excellent. Does the Princess Knickers hand out scones as well as cheese.... or maybe cheese scones even?

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1192659' date='Apr 8 2011, 10:21 AM']The Streamliner has a lot more going on in the lows and highs, and I think it would be a better match for the Compact.[/quote] Got to agree. And if you ever think of selling your Streamliner WoT - can I be first on the list of possible buyers? Brilliant amp.

The big one was my mum sitting me down in front of the telly and saying I ought to watch Oscar Peterson guesting on some show or other - this in the late 60s. She was right. I'd previously heard some popular stuff that sounded very vaguely jazz-ish in the household, from Jo Stafford to Glenn Miller, and I guess they laid the first few bricks. Oscar Peterson finished the building.

Slightly OT, but useful background I hope................. The name 'rare-earth' is a bit misleading. Neodymium is to be found as commonly as copper or cobalt as far as distribution within the world's crust goes - but it's the location of economically viable concentrations that matter. Other mines will start producing - the US has some potentially interesting deposits for example. It will have to be carted to China for now though, as they currently hold the only separation plant. Building one of those from scratch is a tad on the expensive side, although Avalon in the US are thinking about doing just that.

I'm probably a bit far.... but if you don't mind a two hour stint down the M62 - I'm in the Hull area.

Chuck a [url="http://barefacedbass.com/index.php?page=super-twelve"]Barefaced Super Twelve T[/url] in the mix of cabs to think about.

Nice to see some utter daftness intermingled with some serious hard work. Excellent. Gives me a further insight beyond the demo you did at the Bass Bash in Harrogate.

[quote name='skankdelvar' post='1188911' date='Apr 5 2011, 12:51 PM']I shall skip naked through the top meadow in pagan celebration of all things good.[/quote] I've now got a combination image of what I imagine you to look like Skank, combined with Morrissey, naked and grotesquely sporting bunches of daffs. That's going to take some deep scrub cleaning of the now traumatised neurones. ***drills hole in top of skull and pours in neat Flash via funnel*** Never had any probs on BC, although I had a combo amp go faulty and develop a loud buzz on transit to a buyer - it buzzed a bit beforehand but ended up a lot worse. I offered an instant refund and offered to pick up the tab for transport back to myself. The potential buyer was a real gent and very, very understanding. The gear I've bought has always been faultless, as have the sellers.

[quote name='51m0n' post='1184576' date='Apr 1 2011, 12:29 PM']I'd suggest a Bareface SuperTwelve...... ......That cab weighs virtually nothing, and has a built in trolley wheels and handle too, its just a brilliant bit of design for anyone with a bad back. Highly recommended....[/quote] Tried WoTs Genz Benz Streamliner 900 with mine at the Yorkshire Bass Bash. The two were made for each other. Never has my flabber been so ghasted.

See? This is what happens when you don't fund Jazz properly.

My modded Shergold Marathon. But ask me again when the RIM Marseer Robbie is doing is ready.

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' post='1181660' date='Mar 29 2011, 11:25 PM']It was advantageous 30 years ago and more when driver technology made it necessary for cabs to be very large to reach very low. And then it was applied pretty much to hi-fi woofers and subs, not electric bass cabs, explaining why they weren't employed in them. Ampeg made one, and it was a commercial failure.[/quote] The first time I came across this loading method was in the Linn 'Isobarik' speaker design, dating from 1976. It was Linn that patented the isobaric principle according to several reports I've read. It used two KEF B139s in each cabinet, and the original idea was to reduce distortion levels in the bass. They were a notoriously difficult load for power amps of the time, requiring lots of power and an ability to happily dip to driving a nominal 3 Ohm load. They were also large, ludicrously expensive, but sounded incredible. It does seem a bit anachronistic to use this loading in a bass cab design. Edit: you must have posted whilst I was still preparing mine Phil.

Yep, just the one. This will change in a few months though, courtesy of Robbie at RIM basses. It's only taken me 30 years to acquire a second one.

I'm now suffering from RDI Repetitive Download Injury.

[quote name='51m0n' post='1179183' date='Mar 28 2011, 10:03 AM']If you DI a high gain signal you'll find a massive amount of high frequency fizzy nastiness. If you listen to a cab's paper cones they cant get up that high and so act as a nice filter removing the poop....... ..................Sit back and bask in the glory of your perfectly tracked and mix bass part. Yes its a little more work, but it provides a lot more control, and a massively improved final result.[/quote] The perfect reply really. Not only what to do, but why you are doing it, and all presented in easy steps. Excellent.

[quote name='matski' post='1172173' date='Mar 22 2011, 04:05 PM']This man speaks the truth! [attachment=75482:scratches.JPG][/quote] You're fooling no-one. That's been coated with glue and then had a small furry mammal rolled on it.