Steve Browning

Maybe they were just being rebellious. I'll get my coat.

I'm on to the tax man, have no fear!! They have been alerted to his business/band names, home address etc. Being ex HMRC, I know how these things work. He's been very silly indeed. 🙂

I suspect the carnet situation is going to be the killer aspect.

Let me check. The news came from a VAT firm called Avalara who are really good on this stuff.

I'd be tempted to have a serious look at the Nate Mendel in the ads at the moment,

I believe it is as I said, Thomann importing into the UK and selling within the UK. That is consistent with the HMC guidance published. German VAT is 19%.

Just as well it's part of the family. I think it'll remain so.

France looks ok from this but I didn't look at other countries that you might go through to get anywhere.

From HMRC Entry requirements If you’re travelling to the EU, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein for less than 90 days in a 180-day period, you may be able to do some things without getting a visa or work permit, for example going to a business meeting. You may need a visa, work permit or other documentation if you’re planning to stay for longer than 90 days in a 180-day period, or if you’ll be doing any of the following: transferring from the UK branch of a company to a branch in a different country (‘intra-corporate transfer’), even for a short period of time carrying out contracts to provide a service to a client in another country in which your employer has no presence providing services in another country as a self-employed person For France (gateway to Europe for many) to stay longer, to work or study, for business travel or for other reasons, you will need to meet the French government’s entry requirements. Check with the French Embassy what type of visa and/or work permit you may need From French Embassy UK citizens going to France to work for up to 90 days will not require a visa. They will need to obtain a temporary work permit unless travelling for a sporting, cultural or scientific event, a seminar or trade show, the production and broadcast of cinematographic and audiovisual works, modelling, IT/ asset management/ insurance/ finance/ design/ engineering audit or expertise missions.

I got a Burman one on Ebay for similar money. It has a row of lights to denote the voltage.

In Portsmouth we now have a motorway with a 40 mph speed limit in order for lorries to negotiate the lane crossing to get to the Customs area that has been established. Not the end of the world but hardly a motorway.

I think that is due to UK VAT being charged. HMRC have said that there is no import VAT on these consignments and so Thomann must be importing in their name and charging local VAT. Seems they've got themselves well organised.

I know I bang on about them but a Fender Japan Precision, especially one of the models with a US in the model name are exceptional. A PB75US is a terrific instrument and cheaper than a US. Quality is consistently high.

I think the answer to the OP question is "in your back pocket!!"

I have noted in another thread that the rules from NI changed on Friday. NI sales/purchases from GB are treated as domestic and not exported/imported to/from NI as was previously the case.

1) Quoting from HMRC For imports of goods from outside the UK in consignments not exceeding £135 in value (which aligns with the threshold for customs duty liability), we will be moving the point at which VAT is collected from the point of importation to the point of sale. This will mean that UK supply VAT, rather than import VAT, will be due on these consignments. The new arrangements will also involve the abolition of Low Value Consignment Relief, which relieves import VAT on consignments of goods valued at £15 or less. Online marketplaces (OMPs), where they are involved in facilitating the sale, will be responsible for collecting and accounting for the VAT. For goods sent from overseas and sold directly to UK consumers without OMP involvement, the overseas seller will be required to register and account for the VAT to HMRC. 2) just a slight amendment. You don't receive your goods until you have settled the charges prior to delivery. With regard to 1) I can see some issues. You will note that it still expects UK VAT to be charged. The OMP will be expected to register for VAT in the UK (how many will be botherede for these small value sales and all the paperwork necessary in the UK). Where there is no OMP involvement it reads that the overseas seller must register and account. This could mean that an EU BC'er could hive to register in the UK to charge VAT on their £100 pedal. There is a UK VAT registration threshold of £85k but non-established entities (people overseas) have a nil threshold. Our EU member could be required to register on that basis. Personally, I think I'd be buying these smaller value things from an established EU seller - if you can. I would imagine that the likes of Thomann will take some time to evaluate whether there is enough of this small business to make it worthwhile. This is just my interpretation based on what is here, as things have developed.

I use a pair of 15's, as you know. I confess I don't see how powering different speaker configurations with the same eq can possibly work efficiently. It does seem popular of course.

Unnamed source is a standard way governments can release information to gauge the response and deny it later. Certain folk seem to find it ominous, and the very people that do it deride it.

Yes. Me. In 2019 I went over to the EU for short tours about 8 times. I may have to fall back on playing in a tribute band or two, or even (if I get really desperate) panto. 😉

Larger bands won't be troubled too much as they will already do all the necessary when they tour outside the EU. It's bands like mine that will be worst hit. We wouldn't earn enough to make it worthwhile.

I can't help on the legal side but I can say that all logistics is all over the place. There are all sorts of delays and problems over paperwork. You are certainly due the courtesy of a reply but the delay in action is no surprise.

I had a few things seem to sit in one place for ages and then suddenly turn up unannounced so don't abandon all hope. Fingers crossed for you.

I'm sorry but that is completely wrong. VAT is charged on every sale by a VAT registered seller. When VAT is irrecoverable (it wouldn't happen with a commercial vehicle) the subsequent sale is exempt but VAT is always charged. People really need to be careful what they are posting. Here's the VAT Act 1994. If you're not familiar with it, then you are best seeking proper advice and not offering advice here. https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/23/contents

How about All Right Now by Free? There's an example of the difference the bass makes.

I believe we import without Duty under the agreement. Your additional costs will be mainly the fee for the carrier handling the import VAT.