Dan Dare

A modern equivalent of the bloke with a guitar, a bass drum strapped to his back, cymbals between his knees and a kazoo. If the rest of the band doesn't turn up to the rehearsal, it probably means you've been fired and they're playing somewhere else with your replacement 😁

Nope. JJ. Unless you're being ironic about the furore a few years back regarding Carole Kaye's claims to have played on virtually everyone's records. Regarding the wider point, I can't understand why so many are unhappy about playing obviously popular numbers. Yes, I get that, as musicians, we probably listen and appreciate more widely than the average person, but it's no hardship to have a floor full of people dancing at a gig (and even less of one to be booked back because you went down well). And if you play a few obvious crowd pleasers and get people on your side, there's more chance they will be inclined to listen to and even appreciate those less well-known numbers you like to play.

This is about PA in bars/pubs, not hi-fi. Lyngdorf is a high end manufacturer of hi-fi equipment and their kit is not designed for or appropriate to the needs of most, if not all, gigging bar/pub bands. The Room Perfect is intended for studio monitoring use (and the KRK Ergo, to which you refer, is an equaliser intended for use with KRK's range of monitor speakers). A studio is an essentially static environment, in which little changes, unlike a bar where bands play. The original poster asked for advice on setting up/combining backline, monitoring and FOH for a band playing in bars.

I may be missing something, but what does this have to do with PA at pub gigs?

Hit me - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/URAL-BASS-GUITAR-USSR-SOVIET-VINTAGE-AND-RARE/192940888000?hash=item2cec2c4fc0%3Ag%3A89kAAOSwGjlc-NEj&LH_ItemCondition=3000

But not of the things it creates sometimes...

The JB police are on their way to re-educate you... 😁

It's also that we're all getting too old, or are too poor to hire someone to cart heavy stuff around.

All you say is true, particularly the final sentence. Short of persuading the drummist to use an electronic kit, one still needs to make enough noise onstage to compete with him/her.

No Thanks to Jazz basses? My dear sir, have you taken leave of your senses?

Exactly. You can also place your monitors on top of the subs, which gets them closer to ear level and makes them easier to hear.

Not such a wild or crazy idea. I use a compact sub (this one - https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/fohhn-xs22) that has onboard DSP and power amps that drive it and a pair of small (1x10 + horn) top boxes. Sits front and centre and takes up little space. Makes for a lightweight, powerful PA that can be carried in two trips from the car.

That sounds the best compromise. Your guitarist can still use his Headrush, but the guitar will be loud enough to sit with the onstage levels of the drums and your backline.

New price is around 4,300, so probably about right.

Very well put. The awful irony of MDP's "creations" is that, were he simply to give instruments a good clean and fit a new set of strings, he would be able to sell them far more easily and avoid all the ridicule (I assume he is picking them up cheap). More evidence of his insanity, I guess...

Seems to me that the issue will be that, as you don't have subs, there won't (unless you have very capable top boxes in your PA) be anything to give weight to the low end out front. I guess you could use your Bergs for the purpose and have a single BF as a personal monitor, but that would necessitate taking almost all your kit to gigs and achieving balance between the Bergs and the PA might not be easy. Does the band have a spare power amp (you would need a crossover, too), so you could employ the Bergs as straightforward subs, or would you rather they were not used in that way? There would also be the problem of the limited space for the band in the average pub to contend with. The simplest way I can see would be for the guitarist to use a backline and do it the old fashioned way.

Oh dear. I realise that. I think you miss my point.

There's a simple answer to all this. Don't buy an item if you don't like the seller's terms or don't want to collect it. Too many entitled people about, expecting everything to be delivered to their door.

The seller is not a player, despite the "I am a semi-professional guitarist" claim. No player would describe it as "Crafted in Japan". Probably looked up Jags on t'internet and doubled the first number he found.

Close. Diplomat.

Used has to be the way to go. If you don't mind the weight, there are some very decent old school class A/B power amps being sold cheap on places like eBay. I wouldn't touch a £100 new power amp with a 10 foot sterilised bargepole. £100 retail means wholesale price is £50, which means price at the factory gate is around £20. It's going to be junk.

There is a solution to that. I find it worth being a member because I get back more than my sub's in reduced insurance costs.