Musicman20

For some reason I really really like orange on most basses.

[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1385462707' post='2288465'] My 9.2 will take a bit of getting used to. I bought it for deep, clean low tones, but with the treble all the way down on both bass and amp, it's still a bit too bright! Still plenty of time to fiddle though... [/quote] The 9.2 is the usual Genz Shuttle tone, which is tight, bright and clear. It will get much fuller if you engage the variable low boost which lowers the HPF...drop the hi mids to taste as well.

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1385381342' post='2287480'] People sometimes comment on EA's lack of volume, but they use a different kind of volume control to other manufacturers, the control acts all the way through its turn so it'll keep getting louder, most other manufacturers use controls that act for the first half turn or something, then nothing much happens after that. [/quote] The Genz volumes are also the type that gradually increases, which is why I like how precise the Shuttlemax is. Compare this to Markbass. Most of the volume is in the first half turn.

Lovely idea for a thread. Still missed.

[quote name='TRBboy' timestamp='1385326915' post='2287014'] Well I've owned two Sandberg Basic 4's and two Basic Ken Taylor 5's, and I really think they take some beating. The neck feel and overall playability is the main selling point for me, but they sound incredible too! I guess it depends whether you want an exact replication of "that stingray sound" that people get so defensive about, or whether you're just looking for the sound of a MM style humbucker in the sweet spot. For me, the Basics gave as close an approximation of a stingray sound as I would ever need, especially in a band mix, I think you'd have to be incredibly anal abut it to pick holes. The Glockenklang Preamp in the Basic is superb, plenty of adjustment but a very natural sound, and the controls interact very intuitively. The passive mode can be very useful too, and with the preamp set flat there is zero volume difference between active and passive. I think the Sandbergs represent superb value for money too, you can have a Basic handbuilt to your spec for less than an off-the-shelf Stingray. I've tried quite a few Stingrays over the years, and although I really want to like them, there's just something that's not quite right for me. As they say, one man's coq au vin is another man's chicken in a basket! As others have said, the only real way to draw a conclusion is to try both and see which works best for you. Might be tricky finding a Basic though, unless there's a friendly BCer you can tap up...... [/quote] The Glock preamp is nice but much more neutral. The Sandberg will never snarl and bite like a proper Musicman, or have a good headstock

[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1385307596' post='2286649'] i think its more to do with the fact that more companies use the jazz bass pickup config, as its more versatile. the only reason bass makers dont do the Musicman humbucker a lot is 1. the preamp 2. not alot of bass manufacturers want to sound like a Stingray and only a Stingray. [/quote] The Super Jazz is incredibly boring. I'm bored of £3000 passive P bass style boutique basses. Fashions will change again soon but the Super Jazz etc are still very much the in thing. It's much easier to get two alnico single coils with a passive tone circuit that it is to attempt to get the Ray humbucker and preamp right. That and the fact no one has got it right yet, or dared to see what would happen if they copied the lot. Fair play I say; protect it if it's your business.

[quote name='lojo' timestamp='1385278570' post='2286273'] I don't get the "a stingrays sound cant be replicated" thing ? If a company wished to make a pickup the same as the MM then surely there is no secret recipe ? [/quote] It's the one sound I've not heard replicated properly...Jazz basses seem incredibly easy to get right though.

Shame the sandberg is called basic and has an awful headstock!

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1385132917' post='2284845'] I picked up the ShuttleMax12.2 in the GAK deal..... It's monstrously loud.... I've had a fair chance to play around with it now and I'm really liking the sound, it's incredibly versatile and for what I paid it's a hell of a lot of amp. [/quote] Agreed. If you barter with GAK/etc they will probably knock it down a bit more. Saying that, £599 is INCREDIBLY good value for what the amp does. If I didn't have the Max 9.2 I would buy one.

Ay, just go the whole hog and get a 12.2/9.2.

Get the Genz whilst its on offer!

If I didn't get a Genz in the sale I would be after a 2x12...the TKS gear is amazing! As for cabs, that is me done now. I'm actually (finally) get bored of tweaking.

Finally got myself a Microkorg XL + from GAK (great prices at the moment and they did a package deal). It's been a long time since I lodged an interest in starting to play with synths, but I'm finally there.

[quote name='omikin' timestamp='1385073133' post='2284292'] When I had one, my passive P Bass into the TB500 would definitely break up soon past nine. As Lozz said, by 2 you're into serious Lemmy territory. Would it be worth asking them to switch it for another? [/quote] +1 If its new, ask for another. Especially if you've only just got it.

Seems like an expensive option! Unless you want to use the iPad for other applications. I'd just try to perhaps slim down the folder/charts and have the music stand to one side.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1384895654' post='2282106'] I don't like the way they look stacked if they are not all the same width, height I can cope with . [/quote] Ay visually its a mess.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1384866010' post='2281550'] Oh right! I found the finish on the new cab to be very similar to that used by BareFaced! [/quote] Did we get the same cab??!?! Haha. Mine is covered in a quite thick black textured tolex. Very smooth.

I think it depends where you want your mids! There is more of a low mid bump in the NX2, so where it would 'punch' and sound forceful instead of providing the more mid mid or high mid detail. To be honest though, as the Ed Friedland review shows, it is a very balanced cab compared to many. If you put sucked mids in, you will get sucked mids out.

[quote name='gillento' timestamp='1384805243' post='2280974'] Hey Gareth can you compare it to your trusted db212? [/quote] Hiya! Not had chance yet but good idea! The NX2 is much lighter and much easier to move!!!

[quote name='nottswarwick' timestamp='1384777451' post='2280511'] I'd say that the fact that there are a couple of negative comments about the cabs on this thread will not be helping the resale... [/quote] The thread will be forgotten in time. It's the same as people saying you can't sell a Stingray for a decent price. You CAN, if you are patient and its been looked after. There are so many single H Black Rays, its unreal, but a sunburst HH Ray with matching headstock? Changes everything. Supply/demand. Notice how BF Gen 2 cabs used to be snapped up VERY quickly? Not so much now as the market is becoming flooded.

[quote name='nottswarwick' timestamp='1384774626' post='2280465'] They would be worth what the market decides. The only way to know the figure if for someone to try and sell one at, say £500. See if someone buys it. I know where you are coming from, and it is interesting, I paid £500 for a prev model neox212t. That was once a £800 cab too, but I'd not expect to get more than about £300 for it. I base that figure on my usual calculation of 2/3 of the shop price at the time. This usually seems to be about right. So, valuing yours at £300 I am actually being generous in my calculation given what you paid for it. Ethically, if someone tries to sell one at a price which is too high, no one will buy it. Personally if I had just bought one of these at £380 and wanted to sell it now, I'd want £300. [/quote] £300 is not, IMO, generous. I like my cab and I'm happy to have found a neo cab that ticks all the boxes and isn't £800-1000. For that reason, selling it isn't an issue for me as I won't be selling it. This type of sale also happened with Tecamp, with GuitarGuitar selling £900 neo 2x12s for about £400. Notice how now the supply/demand has changed and a Tecamp would bring about £600 second hand, at least, in good condition. The Neox/NX2 has always been a popular cabinet, and always £700-800. It will no doubt continue to be made by Fender. We shall see what the prices change to. You do realise that £300 would probably not even cover the cost of the drivers in some circumstances? We are talking fairly high end faital neodymium drivers. Neo is still expensive. If Conan wants to sell for £500, I would not think this is a sneaky way to make profit, its just he was lucky to snag a good cab at a low price.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1384684170' post='2279354'] Oh absolutely! The problem is that my amp (a Hartke LH500) is hardly noted for its ability to chuck out mids. My main bass is a Fender J and I prefer to have both pickups on full. Again, a bit of a mid-range desert! Add to that my use of a BDI21 and you start to see the problem that the new cab is up against! That said, under identical conditions, my Compact always sounded rich and full. Why can I never just be happy with what I have?? Damn you GAS!! [/quote] Wow, that is a mid desert! You are literally sucking mids at every point. I'm finding the cab is extremely balanced but there is a small low mid bump. I am shocked that a 1x15 had more mid punch than a 2x12 with drivers that are on par, especially as the 2x12 is voiced more to punch through. I tried a Compact a while back and it could seriously throw out some low end, but it missed the definition I'm used to, hence it didn't work for me. The other thing that confuses me is the BF tend to promote that it's cab that gives you what you put in, so no mids is no mids, with no particular voicing of the cab changing that. That said, everyone has different tastes so if it doesn't work move it on With regards to price, the cab is £720-740 new. It's upto you how you play it. You were quick to order so if you make profit, you make a profit. If you don't want to do that on here, that's fair play. It might seem more moralistic to sell on eBay etc. Saying that, there are some lurkers on here who post new basses every now and then but they mainly sell basses and amps that they've definitely picked up cheaper. We are probably funding their new gear.

Just the standard padding, no board.

[quote name='artisan' timestamp='1384604166' post='2278575'] how's the fit of your cover ? Mine is slightly too long so touches the floor on the front & sides,i may return mine so they can shorten it a tad. [/quote] It does touch the floor a little but the wheels are free to move. To be honest I'd rather it be a little longer as if protects it when sliding into boots, etc