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[quote name='LawrenceH' post='887870' date='Jul 6 2010, 10:34 PM']This has been puzzling me. Why don't people rave about the Classic 60s then? I find it hard to believe the finish makes such a massive difference. Do you think they are picking the better tonewoods for the Classic 60s, or better QC, or are the Classic 60s seriously underrated?[/quote] Exactly my thoughts....I've never played a Classic 60s but Fender confirmed it's exactly the same bar the, IMO, great colours and finish. It's a lot to pay though. My girlfriend thinks I'm better off with my American Standards.

It would probably work but you'd be best matching with another TC cabinet if I'm honest. Another RS212 would be thunderous, or an RS210 for a sweeter puncture high end.

I'm going to shelve the idea for a while. The RW is a nice bass, but I've confirmed with Fender UK and USA that it's exactly the same as the MIM 60s bass, except the appearance. The extra cash is for the relic/paint. All parts are Mexican including the pickups. That's not knocking em, but I'm going to think about it a little more.

Awesome bass player. Definitely a massive influence on recent techniques/styles ive been learning. Great old school tone.

[quote name='tredders' post='887222' date='Jul 6 2010, 12:59 PM']I love the BG! Great neck, well put together and well setup straight out of the box (although I have to say that it seems as though there are a number of people on here unhappy with the quality of their Laklands). Mine has the Hanson pup in it, and sounds and feels just like a great Precision. Sure, it's not as "nice" as one of the two "real" vintage P's, but equally it was a fraction of their cost! With the exception of the 2 Fenders in the pics, it's the best P bass I've owned - better than a '77 I owned years ago, & better than a '98 US P I sold on here last year. I've not played one of the new 2010 Fender P's, but have only read great things about them, but I've owned and played some right dogs in my time. The BG just seems comfortable, familiar and consistent (although other peoples experiences differ).[/quote] I personally love the whole look of Laklands, I just think I was very unlucky to get ex demo dogs when I tried to buy one. Saying that, Ive tried 1 or 2 modern Fenders that werent that nice. The other day I tested a RWorn Jazz and a Lakland Skyline JO4 and I cant decide which to get...both were great.

Cool! How does the Lakland compare to the Fenders youve owned/played?

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='886743' date='Jul 5 2010, 10:16 PM']The same as Tom (EssexBassCat) mentioned, the only thing I couldn't quite get my head around was the damage on the RW - Until I came up with the logical premise that it really didn't matter if the bass got chipped or scratched. A minor plus point in it's favour, but as you now know, how they play and sound just blows how they look out of the water, whether you like new and shiny like me, or not. [/quote] Strangely I don't mind it...I think it would be quite liberating not to worry about it dinging! I've always wanted a vintage or custom shop Fender and nearly all of them will have wear. The main thing is playability and tone. I suppose there will always be buyers for it on Basschat should I want to move it on.

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='886701' date='Jul 5 2010, 09:35 PM']Quite true, Gareth - You've really got to play a bass before you spend two grand on it [/quote] I definitely realised that haha. Thats the peril of mail order. But, with most the modern Fenders and definitely the EB basses, Im fine to test to see if I like them and the quality, then order one to my spec. If it turns up with problems then I guess it just gets swapped for another. Still thinking about the RW Jazz....Im really hoping it ticks all the boxes. It sounded great...just hoping Im making the right choice.

[quote name='allihts' post='885013' date='Jul 3 2010, 07:25 PM']NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!![/quote] I just realised they have new tuners designed for some EB basses, so I'm going to look back into the Big Al then. Not only that, I need to test one before I take the plunge.

Thats a damn good stage man, well done. The sound seems pretty decent actually, I can hear everything quite well. Im jealous as I havent gigged since Xmas and unfortunately it was a small club with rubbish sound.

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='885591' date='Jul 4 2010, 05:28 PM']This is how it sounded when it first resurfaced early last year... [/quote] Victor cracks me up....plus he is one amazing player. Sounds great.

TBH, Ive never heard good things about the Highway 1....I think its more the playability people complain about. Im not sure.

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='885408' date='Jul 4 2010, 12:40 PM']Told you they were good, didn't I? [/quote] It lived up to the expectations. I really like the old tuners....

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='850717' date='May 28 2010, 10:15 PM']It's a tough call... As others have said, the American Standard is a very well equipped bass package with the hardcase, posiflex graphite rods, high mass bridge & they do sound great - You played the one I had when you came here didn't you, Nathan? The Road Worn is a different kettle of pilchards altogether. The nitro finish really does let the sound ring out & there is something about them. You can get both at around the same price, actually. Most places will do one or the other for £799 if you haggle hard enough. I tend to think of it like this... The Am.Std is the modern version of the Jazz with all the best refinements. It plays and sounds grown up, mixing the classic J sound with some modern touches, whereas the Road Worn plays and sounds like Jazz basses did in the 60's. That original growly burp is there in abundance. Back off the tone control, play on the back pickup only & you've got Jaco sounds in spades. The scary thing about the Road Worn is that I have no idea how they made it sound so good. There's some voodoo going on there somewhere! I can only assume a lot of it has to do with the nitro finish. Oh, and btw... The pickup spacing on both is 60's. [/quote] Well, I have now tried the RW Fiesta Red Jazz. I am impressed....I really am. Not only did it attract attention when I started noodling in the shop, but I agree with the whole 'feel'. The setup wasnt amazing, but the action was low enough to enjoy it. I compared it to a Lakland Jo in the store, and they were close, with the JO being more 'modern', and the RW having that warmth that you rarely find. I much prefer 60s spacing, and these pickups solo'd sounded amazing. The JO neck Pup just didnt thump like the RW I must admit. I have an American Series Jazz, and now im considering a RW for the sheer fact it looks and feel amazing; I quickly realised yet again how much the Jazz works for me.

[quote name='Clarky' post='885366' date='Jul 4 2010, 12:01 PM']With shipping and import would cost someone in UK about £900, which is not exactly a bargain unfortunately (not ridiculous either, mind). I like it a lot but am in bass gear deficit right now [/quote] Agreed....if there was a way to get it for around £750-£800 max it would be excellent.

If this was in the UK I would have bought it already...

[quote name='Clarky' post='884896' date='Jul 3 2010, 04:28 PM']My new rig. Orange AD200B plus Barefaced Vintage (2x15) ... with Sid skulking in the foreground. Phwoarr! [attachment=53463:clarky_basses_513.JPG][/quote] Wicked, especially the Orange. That cab looks massive...I bet it moves some air.

[quote name='benthos' post='884616' date='Jul 3 2010, 10:15 AM']I've heard good things about the Aguilar cabs. Weight is not so much the issue as bulk, I guess so the weight of the Aguilars is not off-putting. Thanks for the advice.[/quote] If weight isnt an issue...the Aguilar will blow most the other cabinets out the water. I spent ages looking at cabinets, and tried all the manufacturers mentioned here. The Aguilar cabs look so 'presentable' its unreal (especially the DB series) and they are very well made. Exceptional tone. I havent found anything I like better yet. Great resale value as well, which is a must for me, (not that I want to sell though). Edit - Quick shot of my DB212....lovely [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=49475"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?act=attach...st&id=49475[/url]

Well, I answered my own GAS today, sort of, by trying both side by side. The RW Jazz was incredibly light and very pure in its tone....vintage and creamy. More about warmth than aggression. Lovely. The relic is actually brilliant...and the colour really stands out. The Lakland sounded more modern, was a fair bit heavier, but had a nice finish. Good QC on this bass.... You will notice the Big Al order has gone. I have decided to stick with two incoming EBs to replace the two that I sold...and that one 5 string is definitely enough. The 5 string version of the JO Lakland was next to it. I tested, and yep, the 4 string just sounded tighter and clearer. More than likely 34 vs 35 scale. Both the JO4 and RW Jazz are a dream to play. Quick necks!

Cool bass! Like it.