Al Krow

Ah, that's a new bit of information. The B1on is noisy in what sense? Fyi no noise issues for me at all with the B3N with an isolated supply.

Ok wot happened? Up for sale, then not, then up, then not. It seems to me that the lady is for turning! 😁 (PS right decision, btw, you won't get anything else of similar capability for £80!)

Excellent. For the money, it's almost a no brainer! And looks a lot of fun, particularly with the expression pedal. I can't really 'justify' getting based on my lack of gig use of my existing pedals, however for the money it's almost a no brainer. ...oh dear, I seem to have got caught in the Looper 😂

So continuing with the 'nub' if I may. I get that where the wood of an instrument is the sound box, what the wood is made of and how it is finished has a massive bearing on tone e.g. violins and why you pay £50 for one and £500,000 (or more) for another. The wood of the bass is not, however, the sound box. It is instead the housing for the soundbox (the pups), the rigid framework for the strings and a convenient location for the onboard EQ. But I take your point that wood resonance will feed back via bridge string saddles and the nut to the string vibrations in some potentially non-negligible fashion. The question then becomes one of degree of impact? On that score, I guess I'm still at where I was at the start of this thread that: pups, strings and EQ will be the dominant drivers of bass tone the wood will have some impact but will likely be relatively small compared to the three dominant drivers

Speaking of YouTube clips, here's an unknown bass player getting a great sound from a BB1200 (? - would make sense as that model was launched around 1977). Apparently Yamaha was one of his goto basses during the 80s. You can really hear what a good / 'dominant' bass sound he delivers through a decent pair of headphones (just don't use dannybuoy's as he clearly seems to be getting weird results through his from his earlier post 😀)

@TrevorR - that was fascinating, thank you for sharing those clips! Two quotes from the comments below the YouTube clip, that struck me as being of note: "There is no magic involved. This is simply a physical phenomenon known as resonance. The solution is in the table top on which the metronomes are mounted. As you can see in the video the tabletop on which the metronomes are mounted is swinging a bit. This swinging increases as more metronomes come into sync. This is caused because there is a slight unbalance in the movement of all the metronomes together which causes the table top to start swinging. Action = reaction. In theory, if all metronomes would be set perfectly randomly, the resulting force operating on the table top should be zero because they all compensate for each other. But in practice this is not the case as the it is almost impossible for the experiment to be perfect. So there is always a resulting force which cause the table top to start moving. This movement will enforce the kadans of the metronome which are in sync, a physics phenomenon which is known as resonance. On the other hand it will temper the ones which are not in sync, thus slowing them down until they reach the resonating frequency of the swinging table top. Then they will start to resonate too. So the metronomes are not synchronizing to each other, but to the swing frequency of the table top. If you would mount the metronomes on a concrete floor, you will see that they won't come into sync because they can't resonate." "So sad when the only left rebel metronome finally aligns itself" I guess the questions that come to mind are: what is the size of any wood resonance in comparison to the string resonance? My instinct is that they will be miniscule. And secondly from the examples you have provided, it would seem that resonance acts to reinforce and therefore to amplify rather than add complexity aka richness to tone?

Love to hear you playing your Yammy live - any YouTube clips of your band in action?

Know what you mean. If I had only bought shares in that fruit company (I think it was called 🍏? )....

Thanks for sharing but not really of the same quality as @phobucket's (which IMO is a really well put together review). This 1 minute review didn't really show anything much at all other than if you have two modern BBs set the same, they sound very similar! No demonstration of the active capability of the 735A which is its big differentiator, so actually not that useful at all...

Aha! Now all clear to me. The folly of youth, followed by the wisdom and regret of maturity! 😂 You mention studio work - session musician or your own originals band work?

Mark (aka @M@23) had a previous thread which seems to have disappeared during the site upgrade, so I have the pleasure of starting a fresh one for him. Absolutely top guy; in fact a bit of a privilege for me to meet up and spend a bit of time with a pro bass player like Mark, who makes a decent living from what I'm doing just as a passion and hobby. Oh yes, and he sold me a lovely bass for a very fair price, which I suspect I am going to absolutely love playing. Great to meet you, buddy, and thanks for the bass! Bas

So is this guy just spouting dangerous crap?! 😄

So you would be interested in getting a 3000MA but when one came up you didn't buy it, because you don't like neck-through basses? Ok, you've got me totally confused (btw - that's easily done) - seems to me like you had a go-beserk day! 😂

Great review, thanks! @dmccombe7 - Dave if you decide you are interested in Yammys the above little review is a very well put together comparison of a couple of the 'work horse' models.

Is that 3000MA still available (if it is and it's in good condition, I would be very interested) or has that particular ship sailed a long while ago? I am not 100% sure whether you mean that as a compliment (= very solidly built) or as a criticism (= heavy and slow)?

The MAs all have reverse-Ps which is supposed to tighten the sound of the low B string (by picking up the signal at a point in the string that is a little bit tighter due to its proximity to the bridge). Nice feature - wish it was available in more Yammys.

@gobasserk quite a bit of Yammy BB royalty there!! You're just missing the 1200 and 1200s - but @hookys6stringbass and @hypercarrotshave about 10 between them so I'm sure they could probably spare you one (and let me have one at the same time, please? 😉) Which of them do you still have?

Yup - big step to remove that metal bridge pup cover, which seems to be a very marmite feature. Was there ever a good reason for that (thumb rest?), or just cosmetic?

@krispn - loved the post! You're resident in Scotland and have been for bloody ages, which is what gets me confused every time (soz for that one though). But at what point does a person adopt the nationality together with some or a lot of the identity of your host nation? In my case, not long after arriving in England at the age of four... The key thing I am going to take away from all of that is that you are perspicacious (a fine word indeed, thank you, who's impact was not too dulled by the preceding 'to'). @dmccombe7 - totally agree with Cuzzie that used is the way to go; particularly on a forum where it seems to me that we get treated really well 99% of the time with only the very occasional bad apple.

I have to admit preferring > 300W (at 8 ohms) on tap for pub gigs so I have plenty of headroom and don't need to be 'thrashing' my gear. If I was buying another combo, I'd be very tempted by the Fender Rumble 500 or 800: which deliver the combination of power, portability decent sound as well as reasonable pricing I'd be looking for. A bunch of useful effects on the 800 would likely get used by me too.

The BB 3000 is indeed supposed to be a really lovely bass - there was a fair bit of drooling over a mint one that came up in the FS recently (now been snapped up). If you're a 4 string player and fancy trying a Yammy you could do far worse than to pick up a used BB 1024 (or the current BB 734A). A LOT of bass for the money. You'll be able to get a very good condition 1024 for around £400 to £450. I'd actually say they have a touch of 'grit' in the sound, which I particularly like, rather than being super clean particularly on PJ setting which seems to be equal fav to the pure P setting for many owners. Are you close by a store that stocks Yammys, if so then worth a visit? One of my Scottish BC buddies (who has bestowed me with a 'Yambassadorship' 😂) avoided Yammys for decades, made the mistake of wandering into a store and later ended up getting a used BB 734A down south for a very good price. And just to bring this back on topic: he may or may not now currently have his Berg up for sale... 😋

Haha - now you have me completely confused! But given I don't have a Sadowsky pre on any of my basses, I suspect the confusion will pass... 😄

You're definitely making up in quality what you've lost in quantity. I guess all part and parcel of the new 'slim line Trav'? 😄