Al Krow

Be warned the PSU does not come as standard! (Fortunately I'm managed to accumulate a couple of spares over the last couple of years )

Zoom B1X-4 (with MS-60B for scale) Following hard on the heels's of Dave's, it's more 'expressive' brother

I suspect you need to be in 'edit' mode, but will check...

I do love my Nord big singles in my Ibby SR premiums! I could see a hum cancelling Nord being quite interesting for the J pup, but not sure I would swap the P pups - seems to be such a 'core' part of the Yammy sound?

Nah - we BC'ers are well and truly a bunch of gear snobs (me included). Went into PMT Cambridge and was informed they don't stock Markbass because it's considered 'high end' and too expensive for most 'average Jo' bass players. Plenty of pro bass players use or have used Markbass amps and cabs and they sound just great, live. In fact a darned sight better than many of us (me included) with our 'superior' gear. My current rig is defo a step-up from the excellent Markbass combo I had and it bloody well should be: it costs twice as much in the case of one rig and three times in the case of the other rig. Yes they are both wonderful rigs. But would I be happy to play through a Markbass combo (again) with a half decent bass? Absolutely. Believe me, it would beat the pants off some of the crap amps and cabs I've experienced in rehearsal studios over the years. Rant over!

Come on, let's have a roll call of ALL the D class heads that didn't make the Greek 'cut'? (Will the last Trace Elliot head left standing please switch off the venue lights! 😂) Did I correctly read you as saying recently on another thread that NO ONE cares about bass tone? In which none of it matters...

Well there was definitely one in the last month in the FS, which someone on here didn't hesitate to snap up (and is very delighted he did!)

+1 ^^ This! It seems to me that you've got two opposing schools of thought here. We're probably all exactly right (for ourselves) and all wrong (for folks who take the opposite view) 😂 Bit like should your pedal velcro be hooks on board or on pedal, or should your compressor be at the start or the end of the chain? The key questions that underpin the nature of space and time as we know it...

I presume you're talking about new prices here? Seems like a good plan to me! What pups are you thinking of swapping in?

Do you think he had a Pete Townsend moment when he realised it wasn't a Yammy? 😂🤣

See my earlier post for differences between 735A and P35. There is then a further step up from 435 to the 735A / P35 in construction and pups. You need to decide for yourselves whether the price difference is worth it for you - that's going to be a personal decision I can't make for you! What I can say for me is that the difference in new prices would be too much, but the difference in used prices wasn't (particularly as used prices should hold up if I ever decide to move it on). John - it's good we all have different tastes! If that P35 had been in burst, I wouldn't have gotten in your way! 😀

It's actually pretty small / neat, which is very cool and will make putting it into a gig bag a doddle. But given its compact size, it seems to me that two stomp switches might have been better than flappy pedals for live use?

Can you do a picture of that next to your B3N, Dave (and maybe also your MXR M82 for good measure!) , so we can get an idea on size please? How does it feel in terms of construction and being plastic rather than metal?

There was also a positive review from @moley6knipe on the pedal board thread:

Lighter gear - yup(!) and primarily on amps and cabs. Big reason why I love my BF SC at 21 lbs! A couple of lbs on a bass can also make a difference on a 2 hour gig for me and on that one my Ibby SR, at just 8.3 lbs, wins. However, as I'm sure you know already, weight balance on a bass can mean that a heavier bass is actually more comfortable to wear and play; and the P35 does very well on that score. I've actually been gigging my two Yammys recently (1025 and 735A) - just enjoying the P/J sound a lot. But having a throaty Nord pup J/J Ibby is a nice alternative and being able to mix things up once in a while keeps all my favourite basses 'fresh'. Bit like not playing exactly the same set each gig, I guess? The 735A does passive and active both very well and that gives it a broad usable tonal palette. Kinda just perfect as a grab and go for pub gigs. I'm glad I got the P35 and am rapidly coming to like it a lot. So it's looking like there will be room for the P35 and 735A on the Krow bass rack and both of them will be gigged.

Haha, don't disagree!

@krispn I don't think there is a discernible difference that anyone would notice in a band mix. And even on a standalone basis at home, I would need identical strings with equal wear to be able to answer that question definitively

Why keep the NE2 and P35 out of my various Yammy basses? The NE2 has a more versatile active EQ than the 735A particularly with the parametric mid cut, a low end that can be monstrous and is just a beautiful, very well constructed bass. The P35 is the best of the passives - it just feels a touch classier than the others; what tips the scales for me is its greater playing comfort arising from its weight balance which means I just want to reach for that particular bass. I've been lucky in being able to get all my Yammys used other than the 1025 which was end of line (so pretty much used pricing for a new bass). However, if I was forced to buy them new, there's only one I would go for and that would be the BB 735A which is the swiss army knife of the Yammy BB range and delivers very good value indeed.

This is a summary of where I've got to on your Q krispn. Differences between the 735A and P35 Unlike the 735A, the P35 has a couple of the key ingredients of the former 'flagship' passive BB the BB2025 thrown in: · it has one of the two wood treatment that the 2025 benefited from: the Initial Response Acceleration ('I.R.A') to give it a day one 'played in' feel; · it is a MIJ crafted bass, which I suspect accounts for a chunk of its premium pricing. EQ The key difference between the two is undoubtedly the EQ with the BB 735A having Yamaha's 3 band EQ and active / passive selector switch, whereas the P35 is purely passive. The EQ on the 735A follows a lot of 3 band EQs layout with volume dial, pup selector / blend dial, and then 3 band EQ in active mode and treble / tone roll-off only in passive mode. The new BB "3 series" passive basses have a VVT set of dials i.e. is a separate volume control for each pup and you blend accordingly. Weights and balance The P35 actually 'hangs' a little more comfortably off my frame than my other Yammys including the 735A. So when I put them all on the scales I was a little surprised to find: P35 (and NE2) - 10.2 lbs 735A (and 1025) - 9.6 lbs The combination of a slightly heavier body and lightweight tuners on the P35 gives it more of a balance between neck and body and, in consequence, there is a touch less neck dive on the P35.

Hey buddy, sure, that is a very good question to be asking IMO. I've kinda answered that indirectly with the initial comments I've made on the BB1025 vs the BBP35, which are both purely passive. There is not a huge amount in it between those two basses, but the P35 does feel a little more comfortable to wear (better weight distribution) even though it's heavier, and a little higher quality overall. I managed to get my white 1025 for £550 as a new end of line model from the Yammy store. Would I pay £800 more for a new P35? Nope. Would I pay £350 more for a mint used P35, yes! Put it another way, I've currently got five Yammy basses and if I had to choose which two I would definitely want to keep, it would be the NE2 and the P35.

The B3N got moved on back in Jan 'cos the Stomp was/is in a different league. However the ability to slip the B1X4 into a gig bag pouch and with the added fun of an expression pedal, means I can see barriers to me getting it out the door are going to just disappear. And because of my previous experience with ToneLib, it'll be a doddle to set it up with some half decent patches. In a live mix nuances of bass tone totally get lost for me, particularly with ear plugs in! And I already notice bass tone much more than my bandmates or audiences. So, slightly bizarrely, I'm likely to appreciate having a Stomp much more at home, where I can hear the difference, than when playing with my bands.

Home 'creative' pedal board Live pedal board(!) (Ok so it doesn't arrive for a couple of days, but I'm already looking forward to it!)

No complaints from me! And hardly naff. If Zoom UK want to avoid online "retailers" taking a big cut of their profits (I get that a physical store gives you the benefit of seeing and hearing a bit of kit before buying but what added value are online retailers providing to us?) and pass some of the savings on to us, their loyal customers, where is the harm to me as the end user? No different to Amazon Prime offering free postage in my books.