Al Krow

If anyone spots a 1200S FS in good nick, please give me a shout. I've found a very good home for my BB425 (which I've not managed to touch yet!😂) so there could be space on a rack for a 'one in one out' Yammy. I could get it refinished in Olly White and then either sell to Ken in Hull or bassfan in Essex 😁 In response to your earlier Q, krispn, I couldn't say I've landed on a definitive setting on the NE2 yet, as if I'm being honest I've not been brave enough to take it on the road yet, and it's likely to get usurped by the 735A and P35 for gigging purposes. When I'm back home I'll take a pic of what settings I'm currently using on it (if you're interested in that amount of detail) and at some point I'll get around to recording the tonal sweep that the NE dial offers which perhaps is the more useful thing for folk to hear.

He might be in one but not the other! 😂

I've bought and sold stuff from non BC members before. I managed to survive to tell the tale (just)... 😄 😄

Ok. Andy, who did you sell yours to? Done 😂

Never is a long time!! Land yourself the white BB1100S you're after and I bet you'll find it hard to resist taking out on the road!

Hey krispn, it interacts as an overlay to the 3 band EQ and seems to add a breadth of tonal palette to my NE2 that I don't find on any of my other basses. It has a surprisingly large impact on tone. There's a Nathan East NE1 pedal in the FS right now going for a good price and I'm a little tempted to get it for use with the rest of my Yammys, but it's not a particularly petite pedal! I can also see why the para mids on a John East uni pre seems to be such a popular feature, although this will not be quite the same as the NE para mid-cut overlay. So in answer to your Q it's an 'always on' feature of my NE2 tonal set up (and not by-passed).

That and the fact that you found it pretty close in sound on the NE2 (although am I correct thatit doesn't have the semi parametric mid cut of the NE2 - which means it does a bit less tonally?), was definitely very helpful in ending my particular gear quest for one of these, for which I'm very grateful (who isn't when a BCer has just saved them spending ££s?)

Aha, gotcha.

Andy - that one's a 425 and you're mostly (entirely?) a 4 string man, right?

I'm guessing the additional (HPF and other) patches are only available via the Zoom software and not ToneLib. I'll check when I'm back at the ranch next week. It makes sense to delete the surplus patches, as you suggest Dave. Be interesting to see which ones we all keep. I reckon probably no more than 10, tops, of the preloaded ones for me. Eg that 'Explosion' is fun, but when are you ever going to actually use it? So why leave that on rather than some of the much more usable modulation or drive patches from the B3N? Ah well, I'm sure we will rectify!

Face it, Dave, you're a total Zoom fanboy 😂

Hah! Definitely like your phrasing of that more than mine, Dave!

Just posted a little sound clip of the A-wah filter on the Filter and Synth sounds thread. I'm kinda surprised how good this is as multi fx have never been famous for their filter and synth sounds, but I could definitely see myself using this patch 'live'. (I even remembered to save it as an mp3 file so that Dave can download )

@Merlino how are you liking your GR2? I've been very pleasantly surprised by the stock filter patch on the new Zoom B1X-Four multi-fx. It sounds very 'usable' to me and I'm not sure audiences will notice a great deal of difference between this and a dedicated filter in a band mix. See what you think? (I've stuck to the same riff as previously for ease of comparison). Filter 10 - B1X-4 A-wah.mp3

I'm sure @Quatschmacher will be along soon, who has become our FI 'expert in residence' over the past year There's also a bunch of comment about the FI (mostly gushing but a few negatives too) on the Bass Synth and FI patches threads.

Well the OC-2 is indeed pretty iconic! If you want a clone that nails the OC-2 sound, then the Valeton OC-10 is your man. It's more compact, very sturdy and around half the price new that used OC-2s are selling for. Check out comments and sound clips in the thread below if you want to explore that one further:

Morning John! The available effects on the B1/X-4 are pretty much identical to that on the B3N - so the discussion that we had on HPFs earlier on in this thread (or was it the recent B3N thread?) will all still be 100% on point.

Are the drums also easier to access than on the B3N would you say? Must admit I never really bothered with the drum feature on the B3N, I'm guessing because it was a little bit more fiddly to access than just pressing a button that's labelled "drums"! Although looking at the rhythm list in the B3N manual it's an identical set of drum patterns to that on the B1/X-4. Oh and I had little play with patch [29] "A wah" tonight and it seems better than I remember it on the B3N, but I guess I must be hearing things or my funk technique has become more Zoom approved - lol! I could see myself using that one live instead of an MXR M82. Let me know what you think about that patch given that you've recently also got yourself the MXR? Having started using on the patch editor last night, creating and saving new patches on the unit itself still feels to me very cumbersome (actually more so than on the B3N with it's triple window interface vs the single window on the B1/X-4) and I'm definitely looking forward to getting back into ToneLib** for patch creation, editing and ordering. ** the latest version of ToneLib is ver 3.7.6 and it's fully set up for the B1/X-4 (the earlier versions weren't). I even managed to find a red USB cable to be on-Zoom brand - lol!

They also provide a Hartke (I think 50W) combo in the Yamaha store in central London. Not the best amp to be using in the middle of a store with a lot of noise around for hearing bass, but I guess that's maybe the whole point - as they have a bunch of other customers and instruments to sell besides basses! Your clip sounded much better than the quality of the sound in the Yammy store! And certainly through headphones you can hear the three different settings quite clearly - I think I marginally preferred PJ over P and suspect that it would cut through better in a live mix. For recording did you DI out of the amp or use a microphone to record the cab? Sorry ignore that, just spotted the 'mobile phone on the floor' 😄

Kinda know what you're getting at and you're right that the 'less is more' philosophy can certainly be true for pedals when it comes to complexity and being put-off getting to grips with stuff that requires detailed PC editing. Had a bit of fun with the tuner, looper and drums this evening. The tuner has three centre lights which come on when you're in tune (as John mentioned earlier) and this is going to be very welcome for anyone gigging / in darker venues. The looper is relatively short at 30 secs but easy to use with a separate button to engage. It seemed all too easy to me to clear what you've just recorded! Pretty basic in that it's just one up to 30 secs loop pattern that can be stored and doesn't record from the aux in, only the bass. Contrast that with a decent looper e.g. my Boss RC-30 which has 3 hours of recording time and 99 loops available. Similarly there's a separate button for the drum machine. Again a pretty basic feature, but useful for home practice. 62 different drum patterns (55 of which are in 4/4) that can be easily accessed by turning the first dial and you can also set volume and tempo with the other dials. The patterns can't be edited, so my Alesis SR18 can rest easy for now... Not sure I'll be making too much use of the looper, but the drums will get used for home practice and the tuner is neat.

There was a fair bit of love for Alto TS monitors on this thread. So much so, in fact, that I ended up getting a TS308 for my bands (will likely get first gig use in a couple of week's time).

This rather lovely Shuker bass in the FS... ... reminded me not a little of the Ibanez SRSC805: The Shuker has the Nord big singles which I know several of us love whereas the Ibby has the Bart Mk1s (which an equal number are not as big a fan of). It also has a rather classy John East Uni pre with para mids. Hmmm...wonder if I could get Wunjos to 'custom order' one with Nords and fit the John East and end up with a 'Shuker lite' Ibby single cut?! Is that something that sounds tasty to anyone else besides me?