jonno1981 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 The little bastard has probably been made as a compliment to the Hayden line (Ashdowns sister company for guitarists) 30 watt all valve head which is called the Mofo! So you can have a motherf****r or a bastard. Excellant!!!! The mofo is a really cool, fun well made head so good things to be expected from this. Its not going to be as loud as an ABM but it should be wicked in the studio or for tiddilly gigs/practices. Cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybrush threepwood Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I wonder... If it's only 30 watt, do you think it would be class A? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umph Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='guybrush threepwood' post='680108' date='Dec 10 2009, 12:06 PM']I wonder... If it's only 30 watt, do you think it would be class A?[/quote] no it uses 4 el84s in pushpull which is AB, you very rarely get a head over 15watts thats class A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybrush threepwood Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Ah right, is that just heads then? I thought there were quite a few class A 30 watt guitar combos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmansky Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) [quote name='eude' post='679230' date='Dec 9 2009, 04:32 PM']WTF!!!! I heard it'll be under 40lbs too! I think I NEED one of these, assuming they're any good of course. Any ideas on when they'll be available?... Eude[/quote] it weighs 14kg,should be available feb 2010.They assure me that the LB30 will be loud enough for gigging.i will be trying one asap. Edited December 10, 2009 by bassmansky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umph Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='guybrush threepwood' post='680227' date='Dec 10 2009, 01:30 PM']Ah right, is that just heads then? I thought there were quite a few class A 30 watt guitar combos...[/quote] ac30s aren't class A it's just marketing hype, anything with more than one output bottle is generally gonna be ab1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybrush threepwood Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='umph' post='680898' date='Dec 11 2009, 01:31 AM']ac30s aren't class A it's just marketing hype, anything with more than one output bottle is generally gonna be ab1.[/quote] Ah right, so is that the difference between 'Class A' and 'Pure Class A'? A mate of mine has a Laney LC30, and that's advertised as 'Pure Class A'. I remember him saying a few years back about a builder called Andrew Guyton; made him an incredible guitar, and was in the process of trying to build a Class A 45 watt amp. Don't know how that turned out though - his website hasn't been updated since 2004... www.guytonguitars.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='bassmansky' post='680422' date='Dec 10 2009, 05:12 PM']it weighs 14kg,should be available feb 2010.They assure me that the LB30 will be loud enough for gigging.i will be trying one asap.[/quote] Me too. Need to find £399 tho as I fear I may have to purchase one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cLepto-bass Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='bassmansky' post='680422' date='Dec 10 2009, 05:12 PM']it weighs 14kg,should be available feb 2010.They assure me that the LB30 will be loud enough for gigging.i will be trying one asap.[/quote] Does anyone know where they might end up being stocked from February then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmansky Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='uzzell' post='681494' date='Dec 11 2009, 04:27 PM']Does anyone know where they might end up being stocked from February then?[/quote] hopefully most ashdown dealers will have a demo one to try.apart from my local store dont count on it being febuary though,we know how new models get delayed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky L Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I just can't get my head around this valve volume/output thing. My small brain does not calculate 30W of valve being the same as 500W of SS. OK I get how if you drive tubes hard then you get crunch.. but how does 30=500? Help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 [quote name='Marky L' post='682799' date='Dec 13 2009, 09:15 AM']I just can't get my head around this valve volume/output thing. My small brain does not calculate 30W of valve being the same as 500W of SS. OK I get how if you drive tubes hard then you get crunch.. but how does 30=500? Help![/quote] Doesn't basically. 30w valve run clean is same as 30w SS run clean. However you might squeeze bit more than 30w from the valve stuff but it will result in a lot of (awesome) distortion and compression, whereas if you do it with SS, you get a lot of horrible distortion. Compression and distortion do act to make things seem louder (see Metallica record controversy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG Flatline Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Damn damn damn! I quite fancy the LB for recording and the Spyder 550 head for live. The 427 would be ace I'm sure, but when would you ever get to crank it all the way!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I emailed Ashdown with a few questions about the LB, but nothing back yet When I do hear back though, I'll post the info I'm surprised they don't put a valve front end with a Little Giant power section... Cheers, Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmansky Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 [quote name='eude' post='686438' date='Dec 16 2009, 03:54 PM']I emailed Ashdown with a few questions about the LB, but nothing back yet When I do hear back though, I'll post the info I'm surprised they don't put a valve front end with a Little Giant power section... Cheers, Eude[/quote] unusual them not getting back,depends if chris bates the head of sales is about i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 [quote name='bassmansky' post='686489' date='Dec 16 2009, 04:34 PM']unusual them not getting back,depends if chris bates the head of sales is about i think.[/quote] Been about 4 days now, I guess they're probably inundated with questions about the new range from around the world. I don't mind waiting, however the longer I wait the more they're pushing me into the arms of a lovely new Orange Terror Bass Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmansky Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 [quote name='eude' post='686493' date='Dec 16 2009, 04:37 PM']Been about 4 days now, I guess they're probably inundated with questions about the new range from around the world. I don't mind waiting, however the longer I wait the more they're pushing me into the arms of a lovely new Orange Terror Bass Eude[/quote]guess theres not enough information on their website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 [quote name='bassmansky' post='686515' date='Dec 16 2009, 04:54 PM']guess theres not enough information on their website?[/quote] Gave the website a good read, but there's always holes in that kind of info. I was actually asking them about how usable they think it will be compared to a small class D amp that is louder on paper. As you'll see already from the thread, some folks say it will be a lot louder than your average 30W, some folks say that's nonsense, I'm not sure what to believe so I just thought I'd ask for Ashdown's opinion is all. I also was wondering if they have a definite date for release and details of UK availability. Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmansky Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 [quote name='eude' post='686547' date='Dec 16 2009, 05:15 PM']Gave the website a good read, but there's always holes in that kind of info. I was actually asking them about how usable they think it will be compared to a small class D amp that is louder on paper. As you'll see already from the thread, some folks say it will be a lot louder than your average 30W, some folks say that's nonsense, I'm not sure what to believe so I just thought I'd ask for Ashdown's opinion is all. I also was wondering if they have a definite date for release and details of UK availability. Eude[/quote] they will probably tell you what they told me that its due instore feb 2010 and its usable for small gigs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmansky Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 just seen the RRP price of the 427 small block head £1939!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umph Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 [quote name='eude' post='686547' date='Dec 16 2009, 05:15 PM']Gave the website a good read, but there's always holes in that kind of info. I was actually asking them about how usable they think it will be compared to a small class D amp that is louder on paper. As you'll see already from the thread, some folks say it will be a lot louder than your average 30W, some folks say that's nonsense, I'm not sure what to believe so I just thought I'd ask for Ashdown's opinion is all. I also was wondering if they have a definite date for release and details of UK availability. Eude[/quote] 4 el84s are pretty loud for guitar but not so great for bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 [quote name='umph' post='686932' date='Dec 17 2009, 12:46 AM']4 el84s are pretty loud for guitar but not so great for bass[/quote] That's my concern I am getting away with about 150W of class D at the moment though, so maybe, at a push... Cheers, Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatbass787 Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 [quote name='bassmansky' post='686723' date='Dec 16 2009, 07:44 PM']just seen the RRP price of the 427 small block head £1939!![/quote] I dont think thats too bad actually for what it is especially when you compare to vietnamise/chinese Ampegs and the likes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayste_2000 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 [quote name='phatbass787' post='687021' date='Dec 17 2009, 09:06 AM']I dont think thats too bad actually for what it is especially when you compare to vietnamise/chinese Ampegs and the likes...[/quote] Expensive when compared to Orange and Matamp though, about the same as the "RRP" on the 400+ though you know when you could still buy them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatbass787 Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 [quote name='tayste_2000' post='687041' date='Dec 17 2009, 09:27 AM']Expensive when compared to Orange and Matamp though, about the same as the "RRP" on the 400+ though you know when you could still buy them.[/quote] Which Orange are you comparing against? The AD200 is less than half the power and best price I could see online was £1300... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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