beerdragon Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) Anyone seen one? played one?, i think they look pretty good. the electrics were made by Moog apparently. they must be pretty rare as i dont think i have see on ebay. someone correct me. it's already tomorrow in Oz. [url="http://cgi.ebay.ph/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180369082594"]http://cgi.ebay.ph/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...em=180369082594[/url] Edited July 24, 2009 by beerdragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Never seen one in the flesh but I think they look the biz, had GAS for one for a while. A couple have come up on here in the last couple of years but no-one was up for a swap for my Tokai Talbo. Still waiting! Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnacleBob Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Nicksguitars.com £700 [url="http://imageevent.com/nicksguitars/gibsonvictorybassred1981?z=2&c=4&n=1&m=42&w=4&x=0&p=0"]http://imageevent.com/nicksguitars/gibsonv...amp;x=0&p=0[/url] BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Thought Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I've always thought they were the best-looking bass Gibson ever made. Dunno what they're like to play, but that sunburst one is about the nicest I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I'll be suprised if they don't get reissued soon, they look pretty lush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinynorman Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Everything you could want to know here ... [url="http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/Victory.php"]http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/Victory.php[/url] They are apparently back-breakingly heavy, although quite well balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 So did someone on here win the auction? Looks very cool, although that front pup angle looks a bit big if the front pup is the same dimensions as the rear one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilLordJuju Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 [quote name='beerdragon' post='550473' date='Jul 24 2009, 06:53 PM']Anyone seen one? played one?, i think they look pretty good. the electrics were made by Moog apparently.[/quote] They are nice basses. I've had three, one standard, one artist (both of which I sold on) and a custom - the one I kept. The look doesn't fit in with my current band, so it rarely gets played. I have considered selling it actually, but it's the kind of bass that I know i'll miss one day if I do. The electronics are by Tim Shaw by the way. See this page for more about the [url="http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/Chuck_Burge_victory.php"]development of the Gibson Victory[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 The Moog Electronics were in the Gibson RD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 [quote name='Buzz' post='550672' date='Jul 24 2009, 10:51 PM']I'll be suprised if they don't get reissued soon, they look pretty lush.[/quote] I hope they don't do what they did to the Grabber then - which was fundamentally change several aspects of it - most of all the affordability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Burpster Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Oh bugger, thats nice. Schaller bridge and tuners too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Am I the only one who thinks it looks utterly hideous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnacleBob Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Not as ugly as the Grabber and nowhere near as gorgeous as a nice RD artist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Burpster Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 [quote name='waynepunkdude' post='551619' date='Jul 26 2009, 10:34 AM']Am I the only one who thinks it looks utterly hideous?[/quote] Wayne, its clearly an '80's hairspray rock' thing..... I haven't seen one Gibson I'd consider buying until this one.... Dont get me wrong they are VERY capable basses but just never floated my boat..... But then I have a huge soft spot for Fender HM basses, so what do I know.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 There's a single slanted pickup version in The Gallery in London [url="http://www.thebassgallery.com/gibsonvictory.html"]http://www.thebassgallery.com/gibsonvictory.html[/url] They want £700 for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnacleBob Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I never understood why Gibson basses had/have such a low profile compared to Fender. Was it marketing, lack of range or even quality or what??? Do they currently have a bass in their line up? I think they do an SG style but thats all that springs to mind. BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 [url="http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Bass.aspx"]Gibson Basses[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 [quote name='BarnacleBob' post='552077' date='Jul 26 2009, 09:15 PM']....I never understood why Gibson basses had/have such a low profile compared to Fender. Was it marketing, lack of range or even quality or what???....[/quote] They sounded terrible and Fenders sounded good. They broke while Fenders bounced. Real men used Fenders, pop groups used Gibsons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 [quote name='chris_b' post='552102' date='Jul 26 2009, 09:40 PM']They sounded terrible and Fenders sounded good. They broke while Fenders bounced. Real men used Fenders, pop groups used Gibsons.[/quote] You are wrong. Also, I hate generalisations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnacleBob Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 [quote name='BigRedX' post='552091' date='Jul 26 2009, 09:30 PM'][url="http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Bass.aspx"]Gibson Basses[/url][/quote] D'oh! Imagine forgetting the T-bird BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 [quote name='neepheid' post='552109' date='Jul 26 2009, 09:50 PM']You are wrong. Also, I hate generalisations.[/quote] also pop groups are/have more fun. Give me a pop group over a 'real man' any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinynorman Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 [quote name='BarnacleBob' post='552077' date='Jul 26 2009, 09:15 PM']I never understood why Gibson basses had/have such a low profile compared to Fender. Was it marketing, lack of range or even quality or what??? Do they currently have a bass in their line up? I think they do an SG style but thats all that springs to mind. BB[/quote] They had some early success with the EB models, but short scale turned out to be a dead end, at least for the mass market. Fender undercut them by making Fender-logo basses in Japan and then Mexico. Gibson would only put their brand on US models, so there was never an accessible entry level for young players to aspire to. I read an interview with the current CEO of Gibson in which he said they wanted to be a premium brand like Cartier or Rolex, which is why they sponsor polo tournaments. So I suppose the strategy is to sell trophy Les Pauls to 40+ company vice presidents who can suddenly afford the guitar they couldn't have as a teenager. Just doesn't sound to me like a company that's serious about making musical instruments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 [quote name='spinynorman' post='552189' date='Jul 26 2009, 11:10 PM']Just doesn't sound to me like a company that's serious about making musical instruments.[/quote] And Fender are or have ever been? Fender mass produce a product which just so happens to be an instrument, I wouldn't class that as producing musical instruments in the way you mean it, that award goes to some of the smaller companies and luthiers ala Celinder, Sadowsky, ACG, RIM, Shuker, Status etc.... Gibson at least do seem to fall somewhere inbetween those areas, and also seem to be pushing new technology now they've stopped pushing designs, those Robot guitars are at least innovative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilLordJuju Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Gibson have always been a lot more conservative. Right at the begininng they decided a bass should be an upright, just like in Les Pauls Trio - so when they took their basses electric in the fifties they made the violin-shaped EB1. They were making Epiphone double basses too. Just about all the Gibson artists, workers and owners were into Jazz, bluegrass and so on. So Gibson made deep thumpy mahogany basses that fitted the role that the upright would have had. As the sixties wore on, this bass-role attitude changed a little, but it didn't really hit home until the seventies when they started using maple, and generally longer scales. The maple seventies basses sold well. Gibson have made some great basses - usually darker sounding than Fenders - but they have made so many variations (a lot more than Fender) that any generalisation about Gibson basses will almost certainly have exceptions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 IMO in the early days, apart from the EB1 Gibson have been anything but conservative. From 1963 when the first Thunderbirds were made up until the beginning of the 80s they've been trying to do something different with the bass guitar. In fact I'd class the Victory as probably the most conservative bass they've made since it was design to be a Gibson replacement for the Fender P and J style basses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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