They just don't make 'em like this anymore......

[Beedster]

13 minutes ago, Cosmo Valdemar said:

Empty Glass is a fantastic album, although I actually prefer the earlier Who version - well, Pete's demo with Moon and Entwistle overdubs.

 

 

 

 

Who Are You is such a great, if occasionally flawed, album 👍

[Beedster]

....and look at what was written on Moon's chair only weeks before he passed  

[Old Man Riva]

57 minutes ago, Cosmo Valdemar said:

Empty Glass is a fantastic album, although I actually prefer the earlier Who version - well, Pete's demo with Moon and Entwistle overdubs.

 

 

 

 

Great stuff! I’ll have a listen to that - I hadn’t realised Townsend had done any versions previously with the band…

 

 

 

43 minutes ago, Beedster said:

 

Who Are You is such a great, if occasionally flawed, album 👍

 

That was the album I bought with my first wages from my first proper Saturday job! Worked in the storeroom at the local Woolies (was too young to be on the shop floor) and at the end of the shift promptly spent most of my hard-earned on that LP. Sat on the bus going home feeling like king of the world. I was dying to get it out of the bag, but didn’t have the courage to do so, in case, a. it looked too flash, or b. someone nicked it! The feeling of coming of age independence was soon shattered when I got home for my tea and had to explain why I’d spent most of my wages on an LP!

[Dad3353]

Mmm... Tea...

[Shaggy]

On 23/11/2024 at 19:56, Beedster said:

I'm learning a Who set at the moment. This, not one of their greatest or most recognised, takes my breath away every time I watch it. Mad, odd, loud, visceral (in places), and strangely beautiful, although not in a conventional sense  

 

 

 

Wow - absolutely sublime; a new one on me, had to watch it twice.   The  Who a full on rock band by then I guess, but what a combination of that sheer visceral power with Townsend's quirky Mod - and for me quintessentially English - song writing.

Townsend the best rhythm guitarist ever bar none; he never rated himself as a lead guitarist and I'm sure channelled much of his frustration with that into pure angst driven energy.

Roger Daltrey's contribution often overlooked , but I think it was around this time that he hit his true form in the band, and for me no other singer could really do justice to the emotive and often complex vocals in Townshend's songs.

And yes; the most distinctive and innovative virtuoso rhythm section ever.    Interesting to see that JE left the pickup cover of his P bass on, given his very physical stye of playing; personally it's the first thing I take off.

 

[Beedster]

33 minutes ago, Shaggy said:

 

Wow - absolutely sublime; a new one on me, had to watch it twice.   The  Who a full on rock band by then I guess, but what a combination of that sheer visceral power with Townsend's quirky Mod - and for me quintessentially English - song writing.

Townsend the best rhythm guitarist ever bar none; he never rated himself as a lead guitarist and I'm sure channelled much of his frustration with that into pure angst driven energy.

Roger Daltrey's contribution often overlooked , but I think it was around this time that he hit his true form in the band, and for me no other singer could really do justice to the emotive and often complex vocals in Townshend's songs.

And yes; the most distinctive and innovative virtuoso rhythm section ever.    Interesting to see that JE left the pickup cover of his P bass on, given his very physical stye of playing; personally it's the first thing I take off.

 

 

Agree with all of that 👍

 

First thing I noticed was the PUP cover also. I wonder if - given the physicality of JE's playing - it simply reduced the chances of him damaging the PUP during a set. This would be kinda ironic given that the rest of the rhythm section were doing just the opposite at many gigs, but then JE was of a very different type to Moon and Townsend...... 🤔

 

[Cosmo Valdemar]

1 hour ago, Shaggy said:

 

  Interesting to see that JE left the pickup cover of his P bass on, given his very physical stye of playing; personally it's the first thing I take off.

 

He must have wanted it there as the bass in the video is Frankenstein, built from dead parts. It's actually a Jazz Bass cover. It didn't stay on for long though.

[Cosmo Valdemar]

Here's a rare shot of John with the bass in question.

[Shaggy]

13 minutes ago, Cosmo Valdemar said:

Here's a rare shot of John with the bass in question.

 

 

That's actually a better haircut than his one in the OP video......

[Beedster]

32 minutes ago, Shaggy said:

 

 

That's actually a better haircut than his one in the OP video......

 

He was a man of his time 👍

[Grooverjr]

Veering off topic somewhat but speaking of men of their time, is that The Hairy Cornflake at the beginning of the 'My Generation' clip? I only remember him from his 80s iteration but he looks a bit more aggressive there. As a London lad the only time I have been genuinely scared in a pub was in the Forest of Dene in about 1995. A few mates went down for a weekend and we went into a pub where, in my memory at least, everyone looked like that - almost as if they were still in black and white. They made sure we had all bought a drink but had not had time to take more than a sip or two before they told us to do one if we wanted to leave with legs intact. We assumed it was thier way of getting free beer so finishing someone else's drink / cigarette / food became known as 'doing a Dene' for a while. 

[JohnH89]

52 minutes ago, Grooverjr said:

Veering off topic somewhat but speaking of men of their time, is that The Hairy Cornflake at the beginning of the 'My Generation' clip? I only remember him from his 80s iteration but he looks a bit more aggressive there. As a London lad the only time I have been genuinely scared in a pub was in the Forest of Dene in about 1995. A few mates went down for a weekend and we went into a pub where, in my memory at least, everyone looked like that - almost as if they were still in black and white. They made sure we had all bought a drink but had not had time to take more than a sip or two before they told us to do one if we wanted to leave with legs intact. We assumed it was thier way of getting free beer so finishing someone else's drink / cigarette / food became known as 'doing a Dene' for a while. 

Nothing changes much . They have always been a little strange down Coleford/Cinderford way . Its the Forest of Dean by the way . Spell it the wrong way and they would just as likely nail you to a tree and feed you to the wild boar . 😆

[Grooverjr]

 I thought it was Dean then decided that I had always got it wrong and didn't check. Thanks for letting me know as I am allergic to wild boars 🤣

[Beedster]

On 23/11/2024 at 19:56, Beedster said:

I'm learning a Who set at the moment. This, not one of their greatest or most recognised, takes my breath away every time I watch it. Mad, odd, loud, visceral (in places), and strangely beautiful, although not in a conventional sense  

 

 

 

Sat in the pub tonight discussing this very track. OK, JE was one of the great bass players, and Daltrey a decent front man, but Moon and Townsend are just incredible in this, in fact it's Townsend's guitar that holds it together at times. f***ing glorious 🙏

[Beedster]

At 4.46 in if you look at the version with subtitles they're all singing 'Gerald'. They're not, they're actually singing 'cello', because during tracking PT apparently asked for cellos to play those stacatto notes but was told the record company wouldn't foot the bill. So the band - bless them - sang the word 'cello' instead 

[Beedster]

...and if you have 7.30 to spare, watch the video but stay focussed wherever possible on Moon, 100% in the moment, 100% in the music, and 100% in the zone. Sublime 

[Cosmo Valdemar]

34 minutes ago, Beedster said:

 

Sat in the pub tonight discussing this very track. OK, JE was one of the great bass players, and Daltrey a decent front man, but Moon and Townsend are just incredible in this, in fact it's Townsend's guitar that holds it together at times. f***ing glorious 🙏

Any excuse to watch this again! There's little to top it.

[Beedster]

1 minute ago, Cosmo Valdemar said:

Any excuse to watch this again! There's little to top it.

 

This says it all.....

 

[Dad3353]

... D'uh...

Edited 19 hours ago by Dad3353

[Bilbo]

I am glad I watched it but won't watch it again. They were a remarkable band with some incredible if slightly deviant energy. A Punk sensibility before Punk was a thing but I never liked Punk either so that's why they never hold my attention for long. Moon has ADHD written all over him. A band that was greater than the sum of it's already incredible parts. I respect them but don't really like them. I can see why many do, though.

[MacDaddy]

On 23/11/2024 at 19:56, Beedster said:

I'm learning a Who set at the moment. This, not one of their greatest or most recognised, takes my breath away every time I watch it. Mad, odd, loud, visceral (in places), and strangely beautiful, although not in a conventional sense  

 

 

 

 

01:29 Pete (where's the book Pete?) tries for his first windmill and ends up twatting the overhead drum mic 🤣

[Misdee]

I always think about The Who that if they came out today with that same music they would be feted as the hippest new indie band on the scene. Their music hasn't aged, and equally guitar- orientated rock music is still in the thrall of bands from that era. Those classic Who records are still incredibly modern and current-sounding.

[The fasting showman]

18 hours ago, Beedster said:

 

Sat in the pub tonight discussing this very track. OK, JE was one of the great bass players, and Daltrey a decent front man, but Moon and Townsend are just incredible in this, in fact it's Townsend's guitar that holds it together at times. f***ing glorious 🙏

Reading this again made me listen to the long version of My Generation off Live at Leeds...always gets me every time, as does Marquee Moon for example.

The tone colours and tone production and character from the musicians themselves is/are incredible, the dynamic range and stereo image also.