New Cort Space Headless Model

[TRBboy]

15 hours ago, SumOne said:

If I were Peach I'd regret discounting a new in in-demand Bass for £600 while pretty much every other UK shop sells for closer to £750 and are sold out everywhere. It's not like they needed to put that discount on to sell (unless they were B stock or something). Most price match though, so if Peach happen to do that deal again you could try with another shop that has them to try out.

 

It's a good Bass, my thought process is what are the alternatives for a well balanced, 5 string, lightweight relatively cheap Bass? The closest non multiscale 5 string alternative is probably the Ibanez EHB 1505, which is about double the cost - it's better in some ways but not twice as good.   

I'm sure Peach guitars had good reason. There's very little markup on musical instruments compared to other retail products (typically 35% from trade price to full RRP inc. VAT). Having worked in MI Retail for years, the top two reasons that spring to my mind are: 

 

1) They were offered a discounted price from the Distributor, possibly for buying a certain quantity, and have then passed that on to the customer to have the lowest price around and win sales above their competitors. 

2) They've sold for the cheapest price around BECAUSE of the popularity. Knowing that it's a hot item and having the lowest price increases traffic to their website, and even if prospective customers don't buy it, they're 'in the door' as it were and may buy something else. It's a very common tactic in retail generally, supermarkets do it a lot. It's known as a 'loss-leader': you take a hit on a popular product to get customers there and buying other stuff too, which you WILL make profit on.

 

[SumOne]

9 hours ago, TRBboy said:

I'm sure Peach guitars had good reason. There's very little markup on musical instruments compared to other retail products (typically 35% from trade price to full RRP inc. VAT). Having worked in MI Retail for years, the top two reasons that spring to my mind are: 

 

1) They were offered a discounted price from the Distributor, possibly for buying a certain quantity, and have then passed that on to the customer to have the lowest price around and win sales above their competitors. 

2) They've sold for the cheapest price around BECAUSE of the popularity. Knowing that it's a hot item and having the lowest price increases traffic to their website, and even if prospective customers don't buy it, they're 'in the door' as it were and may buy something else. It's a very common tactic in retail generally, supermarkets do it a lot. It's known as a 'loss-leader': you take a hit on a popular product to get customers there and buying other stuff too, which you WILL make profit on.

 

 

Yeah, I guess. Perhaps they push for the upselling - they advertise a Plek setup for £175 with the Bass, perhaps they hope to also sell an Amp/Cab/cables etc. Still though, GAK, Guitar Guitar, Gear 4 Music all sold out at £750 (Bass Direct £700) so selling for £600 seems to be shooting in the foot a bit. I wouldn't hold my breath they do it again in the short term. Good deal for whoever got it though, I'm a bit jealous I paid £700! (mine is green though, which I prefer, Peach only seemed to sell one or two Grey ones).

Edited April 26 by SumOne

[BillyBass]

On 22/04/2024 at 13:36, edstraker123 said:

I px'ed mine on Saturday back to the guy who sold me it against a mint Lakland 55-02. He's just sold it again on ebay for £600 - so I guess we both did well out of that deal given the falling prices.

What happened there?  A lightweight headless to a big lump?  Not to dis Lakland, they make great basses I'm sure but they can be a bit heavy.  

[edstraker123]

It was just a much better bass for not much more money.

Also given the price drop at Peach,  resale on the Corts would definitely be heading in the wrong direction.

[BillyBass]

3 hours ago, edstraker123 said:

It was just a much better bass for not much more money.

Also given the price drop at Peach,  resale on the Corts would definitely be heading in the wrong direction.

I like the look of Laklands, though some of their colours are a bit ordinary.  I tried a 4 string briefly in a Guitarguitar and it was a bit heavy, but not too bad.  I get the impression their fivers can be a bit too heavy but I wouldn't mind a light one.  I'm on the lookout for another fiver at the moment, let me know how you are finding it.

[crazycloud]

14 hours ago, edstraker123 said:

Also given the price drop at Peach,  resale on the Corts would definitely be heading in the wrong direction.

Short term, maybe. Headless instruments are very niche and sales prices can be fickle on them, and the second hand market is awful at the moment especially for non Fender, Gibson and PRS gear. Anything less mainstream is having a hard time selling based upon my observations on epay and Reverb.

[Al Krow]

See that Bax and Thomann are now £655 / £659 on these => around £500 for a used one in the near future? That's decent value.

 

But kit doesn't have to be eye wateringly expensive to be good though. Eg many used Yamaha BBs

[Dazm66]

So around the time of the last message in this thread I contacted Peach to see if they had more stock due. As I mentioned earlier every other stockist was more expensive and no-one seemed to have any stock anyway. Peach replied to say they did, in a week or so, and would let me know when they were in. I was away last week when they contacted me so couldn’t get to them until Friday. On Wednesday the site showed 3 in stock (at £597). By Thursday the green one went. On Friday morning, just before I boarded my flight, there  was only one left. I landed at lunchtime and checked and the last one had gone. Still I thought I would go anyway as I had an appointment and thought at least id get to try one. When I arrived all was well. The chap with whom I had been communicating had actually put on order in to stop it being sold! Tried the bass and loved it so I’m now the delighted owner of one of these - at a great price - thanks to some great service from Peach guitars. 

[PatrickJ]

I stopped into Stompbox Northwood at lunch today and gave the Space 5 they had a go.  I really really liked it , I’m looking for a five string and this seems like a lot of bass for the   money, even at £750.

 

the one thing that put me off was the volume control , it seemed to be either on at full volume or off within a very small range of movement in the master volume knob.   There was no tapering.   The guy at the shop told me this wasn’t a problem and the pots could always be upgraded but it didn’t feel right to me. 
 

@Dood did you do your test of these, was it something you noticed (or anyone else who owns one, or spent a bit of time playing one) or were the electronics on this one a bit dodgy? 

[Dood]

13 hours ago, PatrickJ said:

I stopped into Stompbox Northwood at lunch today and gave the Space 5 they had a go.  I really really liked it , I’m looking for a five string and this seems like a lot of bass for the   money, even at £750.

 

the one thing that put me off was the volume control , it seemed to be either on at full volume or off within a very small range of movement in the master volume knob.   There was no tapering.   The guy at the shop told me this wasn’t a problem and the pots could always be upgraded but it didn’t feel right to me. 
 

@Dood did you do your test of these, was it something you noticed (or anyone else who owns one, or spent a bit of time playing one) or were the electronics on this one a bit dodgy? 

 

Hey @PatrickJ

 

I have completed and submitted my full review of the Cort Space, yes! I have been delayed (pretty much all year so far) with on-going poor health and I've been struggling somewhat. Expect the review to go live soonish.

 

Honestly, and, maybe this can be a hint towards my review in general, I didn't notice any volume taper issues with the example sent to me. What amp / set up were you plugged in to? Could it have been an input impedance issue? 

Overall, I am pretty pelased with the bass Cort sent me to review (along with another I have covered) and, if it were the green version, I'd have been thinking about selling a body part to hang on to it a bit longer!

 

 

[PatrickJ]

58 minutes ago, Dood said:

 

Hey @PatrickJ

 

I have completed and submitted my full review of the Cort Space, yes! I have been delayed (pretty much all year so far) with on-going poor health and I've been struggling somewhat. Expect the review to go live soonish.

 

Honestly, and, maybe this can be a hint towards my review in general, I didn't notice any volume taper issues with the example sent to me. What amp / set up were you plugged in to? Could it have been an input impedance issue? 

Overall, I am pretty pelased with the bass Cort sent me to review (along with another I have covered) and, if it were the green version, I'd have been thinking about selling a body part to hang on to it a bit longer!

 

 

Thanks for the response @Dood!  Amp was just an Ampeg Rocket combo that was in the store, I suspect it was just faulty electronics.  Problem is there only appear to be two black ones in the country, this and one at the Bass Gallery (who I refuse to deal with after a few shitty experiences).

[tauzero]

There should be one in fairly soon at Bass Direct, they seem to be punting them out as fast as they get them in.

[Dazm66]

9 hours ago, tauzero said:

There should be one in fairly soon at Bass Direct, they seem to be punting them out as fast as they get them in.

Looks like Peach have one in stock again as I write this. Even if it goes, it’s worth getting in touch with them to see when they expect more. The price is very competitive!

[Richie_b]

On 21/05/2024 at 23:13, PatrickJ said:

I stopped into Stompbox Northwood at lunch today and gave the Space 5 they had a go.  I really really liked it , I’m looking for a five string and this seems like a lot of bass for the   money, even at £750.

 

the one thing that put me off was the volume control , it seemed to be either on at full volume or off within a very small range of movement in the master volume knob.   There was no tapering.   The guy at the shop told me this wasn’t a problem and the pots could always be upgraded but it didn’t feel right to me. 
 

@Dood did you do your test of these, was it something you noticed (or anyone else who owns one, or spent a bit of time playing one) or were the electronics on this one a bit dodgy? 

Bit late to this, but can confirm Dood's response, my volume control on the Space 5 works as expected, so that sounds like a fault on the bass you tried....

Gigged mine on Sat.  Terrible gig for a range of reasons, but the Cort worked really well with a really nice sound & worked very well.  Only got a bit stuck at the back of the night when the stage was waaay darker than expected and it was hard to find the right start point for a song that started mid fretboard 🤦‍♂️.  Very solid and have really enjoyed playing.  Would recommend.  Even, as you say, at £750

Edited May 23 by Richie_b
Correct a typo

[PatrickJ]

42 minutes ago, Richie_b said:

Bit late to this, but can confirm Dood's response, my volume control on the Space 5 works as expected, so that sounds like a fault on the bass you tried....

Gigged mine on Sat.  Terrible gig for a range of reasons, but the Cort worked really well with a really nice sound & worked very well.  Only got a bit stuck at the back of the night when the stage was waaay darker than expected and it was hard to find the right start point for a song that started mid fretboard 🤦‍♂️.  Very solid and have really enjoyed playing.  Would recommend.  Even, as you say, at £750

Thanks @Richie_b .. I ended up ordering the one @Dazm66 tipped me off about,.  £597 from Peach Guitars, it seems crazy they are selling them for that price, free next day delivery and is scheduled to arrive tomorrow before lunch :).

PS. @Dood - I hope your health starts to improve!

[Dood]

1 minute ago, PatrickJ said:

Thanks @Richie_b .. I ended up ordering the one @Dazm66 tipped me off about,.  £597 from Peach Guitars, it seems crazy they are selling them for that price, free next day delivery and is scheduled to arrive tomorrow before lunch :).

PS. @Dood - I hope your health starts to improve!

 

Thank you, that's really thoughtful  this bass fam'   Love

[Richie_b]

16 minutes ago, PatrickJ said:

Thanks @Richie_b .. I ended up ordering the one @Dazm66 tipped me off about,.  £597 from Peach Guitars, it seems crazy they are selling them for that price, free next day delivery and is scheduled to arrive tomorrow before lunch :).

PS. @Dood - I hope your health starts to improve!

Gg on finding one from Peach. That's where I got mine. Price & service was crazy good! Enjoy when it arrives.

 

& likewise @Dood, hope things get better for you!

[tauzero]

On 20/02/2024 at 14:59, tauzero said:

Conclusion - if I'd not already got the EHB1265, my 2024 gear abstinence may have come to an abrupt end. If you want a multiscale headless, it has to be an EHB (or a Boden for £3k). If you want a single-scale instrument then the Cort offers similar quality and a similar feel for half the money, and no irritating locking jack socket. I might yet get one when they start popping up on the second-hand market for £400.

 

See NBD 😁