This'll depress all you vintage Fender anoraks....

[Grahambythesea]

The ashtrays were free 🤣

[jd56hawk]

 

Edited December 24, 2021 by jd56hawk

[wateroftyne]

28 minutes ago, jd56hawk said:

 

The plot thickens! Is that colourised, or original colours…?

[Doctor J]

Have a go yourself

 

https://colorize.digital/

[Doctor J]

Every one I've tried suggests red too

 

[wateroftyne]

1 minute ago, Doctor J said:

Every one I've tried suggests red too

 

TBH at this point I’m going to go with what the family say as opposed to AI colourisation algorithm 😄

[jd56hawk]

1 hour ago, wateroftyne said:

The plot thickens! Is that colourised, or original colours…?

Colorize black-and-white photo app..five different ones show it as red. I've tried this in the past with similar photos, of course,  and I was pretty sure it was red before the conversion.

[LukeFRC]

There’s a guy around here who recolours historical photos and sticks them on Facebook - it’s amazing how often the york stone buildings come out as red brick…  so it wouldn’t surprise me if these AI recolouring are more likely to recolour custom colour basses as red because it’s a more common custom colour of fender basses than any other…

[Stub Mandrel]

AI can only guess appropriate colours.

 

Look at the curtain, it's coloured it beige on top and blue under the necks. It might just as easily have been red.

 

On 24/12/2021 at 19:56, jd56hawk said:

 

[jd56hawk]

2 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said:

AI can only guess appropriate colours.

 

Look at the curtain, it's coloured it beige on top and blue under the necks. It might just as easily have been red.

 

The curtains aren't blue, they're grey because the photo apps seldom do a complete job.

[wateroftyne]

2 minutes ago, jd56hawk said:

The curtains aren't blue, they're grey because the photo apps seldom do a complete job.

But… we don’t know for a fact what colour they were.

[LukeFRC]

8 minutes ago, jd56hawk said:

The curtains aren't blue, they're grey because the photo apps seldom do a complete job.

They do in as much as they can, and as much as they can workout the edges - but it’s almost 100% educated guesswork - and like @wateroftyne says we don’t know the colour of the backdrop anyway…. Or the jackets, which would be more important if we were trying To work out the bass colour - as you would have the tonal contrast to the bass. 

[Munurmunuh]

Curtain which are beige high up and blue low down, suddenly become red when seen between two guitar necks.

 

 

The body of the Precision is similar rendered red because of the 4 bolts joining the neck etc etc

[jd56hawk]

9 hours ago, wateroftyne said:

But… we don’t know for a fact what colour they were.

Of course, for all we know the jackets can be red instead of the bass.

I've seen many black-and-white photos of classic cars where lighter Grey's often turn out to be red. 

Edited December 27, 2021 by jd56hawk

[skej21]

I think it’s pretty clear (probably due to its main use?) that these AI colourisation tools are designed to focus on skin tones (reds, pinks and creams). Here’s a photo that I converted to B&W (left is photo before desaturation) then ran it through a number of recolour AI and they all clearly missed the mark on almost every colour…

 

 

[Doctor J]

They didn't make it red though. Perhaps the AI knows it wasn't sprayed red by Arbiter? 😉

[skej21]

8 minutes ago, Doctor J said:

They didn't make it red though. Perhaps the AI knows it wasn't sprayed red by Arbiter? 😉

It made all the blue tones (like the blue grille cloth on the cab, chrome covers etc) red though…

Edited December 27, 2021 by skej21

[skej21]

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Edited December 27, 2021 by skej21

[Doctor J]

I'll look for a bigger winking emoji 😁

[Stub Mandrel]

On 23/12/2021 at 14:13, wateroftyne said:

...'cos it sure as hell depressed me.

 

Someone posted this photo on my home village's FB group of a local band from back in the day.

 

 

'Hellooooooo' says I - there can't have been many custom colour P's in the UK - never mind our little part of the North East - back then.

 

Intrigued, I went on the hunt and tracked down the bass player's step-son, who still lives in the area along with the man himself.

 

I asked the step-son what happened to the bass.

 

"Yeah, it was a sort of pastel turquoise pale blue finish. He sold it about ten years ago for pennies (£150 if my memory serves me well)."

 

*sigh*

 

 

 

Panchromatic b&w film tends to render blues and reds lighter than their true luminosity.

 

It renders greens darker.

 

I would say the bass is so dark a red or true blue are unlikely, but a greeny blue is possible.

 

[hubrad]

On 23/12/2021 at 18:52, Simon. said:

@wateroftynedo you know the name of the band? The drummer looks a lot like old photos of my Dad, who used to play in bands across the north east 60-ish years ago!

Am I the only one hanging onto this thread and waiting to hear if there's a match on this? I love a good back story!

Or did it get taken to pm to protect the innocent?

[EssentialTension]

Great story whatever the colour.

[Pea Turgh]

Why is there a whole page of trying to guess the colour when we’ve already been given the answer?!

[wateroftyne]

Just now, Pea Turgh said:

Why is there a whole page of trying to guess the colour when we’ve already been given the answer?!

 

Because AI says otherwise, so the people who've actually seen it must be wrong 😄

Edited December 27, 2021 by wateroftyne

[Pea Turgh]

I reckon the drum kit is brown, btw.  I think it’s mahogany “duroplastic”.